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rocthebully 09-15-2013 02:52 AM

And I find it funny how you can see a big difference in how the am bully of today looks so different from there grandparents and great grandparents , and that's not even that far back, they don't show the bulldog in the pedigree they threw in there to make them look so extreme.

rocthebully 09-15-2013 02:58 AM

For example look at gottylines Romeo ped . Look at the dogs before him then look at him and the dogs after which includes the famous stud DAX the looks are dramaticly different, its crazy

DieselsMommie 09-15-2013 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rocthebully (Post 937770)
And I find it funny how you can see a big difference in how the am bully of today looks so different from there grandparents and great grandparents , and that's not even that far back, they don't show the bulldog in the pedigree they threw in there to make them look so extreme.

They ALL look like bulldogs that's why I'm so shocked an APBT and AmStaff created that. Can anyone post any pix of how these dog started off as? Bc google just shows a bulldog body with a "pit" type head.


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rocthebully 09-15-2013 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselsMommie (Post 937834)
They ALL look like bulldogs that's why I'm so shocked an APBT and AmStaff created that. Can anyone post any pix of how these dog started off as? Bc google just shows a bulldog body with a "pit" type head.


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Go to bullypedia and look up dax , miagi , mo money or any other big name bully and just click on there parents and there parents etc.go back as far as you can.

Just Tap Pits 09-15-2013 04:33 AM

Just look up "throwing knuckles" or "purple rose of cairo"

Pink 09-15-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselsMommie (Post 937834)
They ALL look like bulldogs that's why I'm so shocked an APBT and AmStaff created that. Can anyone post any pix of how these dog started off as? Bc google just shows a bulldog body with a "pit" type head.


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Yeah, they were never meant to be the EB mixes you see folks parading around now.

Examples of some of the first American Bullies..

In the words of Dave Wilson:

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The dog that I created that gave me the ultimate look was Cairo. Once Cairo was created, that was basically me saying "I'm done. I've got exactly what I'm looking for in the ultimate dog, and this is the accomplishment that I've been looking for all these years, and striving for."
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Cairo, truly in his prime, I would say, was mid to upper 90's at top weight. He wasn't short, and I don't know heights these days. People are crazy, I don't even know how they measure these days. Cairo was probably 19 3/4"-20".
The dog Dave's referring to - Purple Rose of Cairo

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psc1bdf381.jpg

Couple others..

RE's Welcome 2 the Edge

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1a4ea323.jpg

RE's Tequila Sunrise

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8e77c79b.jpg


Shame how people have taken this breed, and what it was originally meant to be, and made it into the mockery that it is today.

Rudy4747 09-15-2013 04:44 AM

https://www.gopitbull.com/bullies-101...can-bully.html
Was put together by pitbullmomatl pretty good little read.

surfer 09-15-2013 05:10 AM

because unless you keep breeding the right[game] ones, you will lose gameness.

i believe gameness is a recessive gene, you need to keep it to the forfront,
if not you basically have a 'show' dog which is nothing like a true apbt.

you breed for gameness and everything else will fall in line and trying to do that can still take generations.

like when you see the dog shows on the tv, you have 'field' and 'show' dogs,
might be called the same but, they are definitely not the same.

just try to tell someone that works his fox hounds that your gonna mix some 'show' blood in to make his dogs look prettier, wont be worth nothing in the field but they will look prettier.

aint really quite understanding that thought process

Just Tap Pits 09-15-2013 05:27 AM

Yeah I dnt get it surfer. If you listen to dave wilson he wanted to make a drivey am staff....

~Missy~ 09-15-2013 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 937570)
Wrong , and of course you will note that *ALL* AmStaffs and *ALL* APBTs will lead back to the exact same place and base dogs..

Not sure what part of my comment is wrong...plz elaborate? We all know where they all came from....

Just Tap Pits 09-15-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Missy~ (Post 938114)
Not sure what part of my comment is wrong...plz elaborate? We all know where they all came from....

Ummm we know what we've been told..... just like with my dogs depends on who you talked to and when you talked to them as to how they came to be...

DieselsMommie 09-15-2013 07:17 AM

Those dogs look nothing like what there is today.....

It's SO obvious EB is in there....c'mon now


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Just Tap Pits 09-15-2013 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselsMommie (Post 938138)
Those dogs look nothing like what there is today.....

It's SO obvious EB is in there....c'mon now


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Oh yeah. Even the bully ppl around here hate those monstrosities. Stalk bully boards, whats hot shit this year wont be seen in 3 years. Its really sad. They are only shortening the life span of the dogs and making them unhealthy mutants (dont mean it to sound degrading but I lack a better word in my vocabulary).

DieselsMommie 09-15-2013 08:18 AM

I never understood why people always considered an EB to be 'muscular' and 'tough' looking. My cousin had one and the puppy almost died bc of all the health problems it was born with. The dog couldn't even go downstairs bc it was so unporportioned. Going up stairs, he sounded like an obese person with emphysema. Never was a fan of the English bulldog. Very curious about the ORIGINAL bulldog tho.

The American bully confuses me. So many classifications it's so scattered.


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DieselsMommie 09-15-2013 09:26 AM

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I bet this will be their next direction or class size Attachment 31786


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