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rocthebully 09-14-2013 10:26 PM

is it pit or not??
 
Ok guys I've been on this sight reading and learning and I was wondering, when they say an am.bully is not a" pit bull " is it because the am bully has no pit bull blood in it or because its been changed so much to create what is the am.bully today? Thnx

~Missy~ 09-14-2013 11:02 PM

American Bullies are not American Pit Bull Terriers. Pits, pit bulls are just short terms for American Pit Bull Terriers.

American Bullies originated as a cross between the American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier but a lot of them today have other breeds mixed in as well.

DieselsMommie 09-14-2013 11:11 PM

Really? I never knew that's how they made the American bully.

What was the purpose of the cross between APBT & AmStaff? Since both breeds look so similar


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OldDog 09-14-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Missy~ (Post 937554)
American Bullies are not American Pit Bull Terriers. Pits, pit bulls are just short terms for American Pit Bull Terriers.

American Bullies originated as a cross between the American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier but a lot of them today have other breeds mixed in as well.



Wrong , and of course you will note that *ALL* AmStaffs and *ALL* APBTs will lead back to the exact same place and base dogs..

pookie! 09-14-2013 11:42 PM

To create a "bullier" style dog, they dont really look that similar but it was a cross between UKC and AKC dogs (with other breeds per what Wilson said), the first generations of the Razors Edge dogs looked like heavier boned AmStaff, because thats what they essentially were

Coyne1981 09-14-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 937570)
Wrong , and of course you will note that *ALL* AmStaffs and *ALL* APBTs will lead back to the exact same place and base dogs..

Just curious about what part is "wrong"?

DieselsMommie 09-15-2013 12:09 AM

That's what I was wondering bc before they branched off....didn't they all originate from the same place?


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pookie! 09-15-2013 12:27 AM

Yea the UKC, AKC, ADBA etc all originated from the same pit dogs of old.

If you go back in the UKC or AKC dogs, they are all traced back to game dogs.

rocthebully 09-15-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 937570)
Wrong , and of course you will note that *ALL* AmStaffs and *ALL* APBTs will lead back to the exact same place and base dogs..

Cause I was on bullypedia (don't know if there reliable? ) but i was looking at cbf mo money and went all the way back in his bloodline to 1900's and found some colby and other apbt lines and thought it was interesting.

rocthebully 09-15-2013 12:31 AM

Saw some pics of some bad a** old school apbt's

Coyne1981 09-15-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rocthebully (Post 937634)
Saw some pics of some bad a** old school apbt's

Yup. There is no doubt the american bully originated from APBT. The cross with AMSTAFF is what wilson claims and I dont doubt it. Its kind of tough as far as I know and at this point because the bully is a new breed. Im no expert, but the way I see it, if you see

NOTORIOUS JUAN GOTTY - Verified American Bully Pedigree Database

or

RAZOR'S EDGE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO - Verified American Bully Pedigree Database

in the last 2 generations, thats some good blood for the bully world.

DieselsMommie 09-15-2013 01:25 AM

I came across this petition in another forum(real old topic) when I was researching American bullies

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...1/#next_action




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Just Tap Pits 09-15-2013 01:38 AM

Remeber this is all ON PAPER....... paper hanging isnt hard.... amd has been admitted to.

On paper my dogs go back to "old bad ass apbt" as well. .

Coyne1981 09-15-2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Tap Pits (Post 937674)
Remeber this is all ON PAPER....... paper hanging isnt hard.... amd has been admitted to.

On paper my dogs go back to "old bad ass apbt" as well. .

Good point.

Just Tap Pits 09-15-2013 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Coyne1981 (Post 937682)
Good point.

Not "bashing" just saying the lines I run on paper are 100% pure bred apbt but my smallest male is 90lbs... I dont see even the orginal razors edge dogs being apbt xs. Am staffs yes. Why breed in the genetics you're trying to avoid to add the drive? How do you add the drive of the apbt but cut the da?


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