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Old 04-07-2009, 09:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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in my honest opinion a flirtpole would be ok, but the springpole shouldn't be used before 12 months. a lot of people think that they should even be 15-18 but a year should be ok!
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Ok cool. That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the input!
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:46 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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he doesnt want the flirt pole to make his dogs aggression go up.
But as long as he's in complete control of the game, isn't it good to have the dog aggressively approach catching the lure? As long as the dog drops the lure on command and quits the game on command, I see no problem with the dog being pumped up about the activity.

Would a flirt pole actually make a dog more aggressive towards people or animals?
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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why couldnt you play with a 10 week old puppy? If you were to play rough or what?
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Old 04-09-2009, 04:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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A flirt pole does not make dogs aggressive period! Some old school trainers use to say that chase games or tug games made the dogs more aggressive. But now we have learned the benefit of these games and understand prey drive. If you dog is getting aggressive with the flirt pole then the aggression was already there it is just coming out when the dog is in drive. If that happens you have bigger problems that a flirt pole.
Even putting a rabbit skin does not make them aggressive. A flirt pole is based out of prey drive. It simulates a natural behavior to chase prey. I use flirt poles to build drive in sports like Agility and Schutzhund. I also use it to condition my show dogs. I even sell them at my training school.

I think it is important to teach an out command after they catch it but you should try and teach that when their drive is not so high. like play fetch and they won't give it back. A couple of things you can try.
1-Trade the toy for another toy or a cookie
2-put your fingers on the outside of the top lips and push then into the teeth and say out. it's uncomfortable and it makes the dog open their mouth.That's how I teach out but I do it when they have sharp puppy teeth and they learn real quick to let go.

A flirt pole is a great way to keep a dog exercised and like I said if you see aggression while you are playing, like they snap at you, then it has been there and the problem is bigger than a game of flirt pole.

Spring poles are great too but I think the dog should be over 12 months so they do not hurt their spine.

Oh and about the other trainer she is correct that a flirt pole will bring out drive. Prey drive but that does not mean your dog will go after the first white fluffy poodle it sees. unless you put it on your flirt pole! lol
Just because you bring out prey drive does not make the dog chase everything that moves. A flirt pole is a very structured game.
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Is there a certain age as to when to let them start flirt pole training?
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