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Old 04-02-2009, 01:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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A while back, I asked to dog trainer what she thought about flirt poles. She said she wouldn't recommend that unless I wanted to turn on her drive(my intepretation). My Dad interpreted her response as it would make my dog aggressive. So, lately as my dog is getting bigger and older, the walks just aren't doing it. My options are pretty limited on how I can exercise her and burn energy. Today, I made a flirt pole and we played with it for the first time. She loved it. It was awesome. Its something I plan to keep doing, otherwise she will probably end up overweight, too much energy, etc... My question is do flirt poles encourage aggressiveness, drive, or both? Is there a distinction to be made between aggressiveness and drive as it pertains to flirt poles? And how can I explain this too him to where he can understand?
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Old 04-02-2009, 01:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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A while back, I asked to dog trainer what she thought about flirt poles. She said she wouldn't recommend that unless I wanted to turn on her drive(my intepretation). My Dad interpreted her response as it would make my dog aggressive. So, lately as my dog is getting bigger and older, the walks just aren't doing it. My options are pretty limited on how I can exercise her and burn energy. Today, I made a flirt pole and we played with it for the first time. She loved it. It was awesome. Its something I plan to keep doing, otherwise she will probably end up overweight, too much energy, etc... My question is do flirt poles encourage aggressiveness, drive, or both? Is there a distinction to be made between aggressiveness and drive as it pertains to flirt poles? And how can I explain this too him to where he can understand?

It depends on what kind of toy you put on the end. Sure if you use a rabbit hide it will get a higher prey drive in a way. A dog for the most part is going to have a prey drive regardless. It is only their nature.

But if you put a stuffed toy on the end whats to say its any different then playing tug o' war or fetch with the same said stuff toy.
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drive yes, aggressive no.

what do you mean by being limited on how you can work her?

do you have an area you can play fetch? all i am doing with Peanut right now is hard walking and fetch for a few hours a day. I just posted some pictures of my boy today you can see what just fetch can do..its easy and doesnt take much. just a suggestion.
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She doesn't do fetch so well. I'm still training her. When we play fetch, she doesn't want to give the ball back without playing tug of war. Thats something that I kind of put on the back burner as part of choosing my battles. Until she's better about it(should be soon), I need something that will really burn her energy and keep her interested. She was interested in the flirt pole the whole time. I just put a rope toy that has this like hard rubber around it on the pole.
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yeah Peanut brings the ball back everytime with out calling him he just doesnt like to give the ball back either.

have you built a springpole? that is great for burning energy. i stepped up with the fetch because Peanut broke his out of the celing (mine is in my bedroom).

if you want to tell your dad about the flirtpole take him to the petstore go down the cat aisle and show him all the cat flirtpoles
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As long as you can make her tired with it, who cares about her acting aggressive? I be she's not too aggressive after an hour of it. She probably just has some water and lays on the floor. the more tired my dog is, the happier I am!!
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
 

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Yeah since I started using the flirtpole with Elektra the only thung she is after we're done is pooped. Too damn tired to be aggressive.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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spring pole.....awsome. flirt pole....even better. that has been mugsy's knew main form of exercise.its hiliriouse to watch it. may increase drive. drive to get straight into bed
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i agree. i use a flirt pole with my puppies dad. he's a whopping 89 lbs and the only thing that it makes him do is calm down and be ready for sleep. haha. we talked earlier about my pup and his tug rope, which im taking your words in for a lot of consideration, but at your pups age, drive is good! if she uses a lot, she will become tired, therefore making it less "work" for you to keep her active. Do what she likes.
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As long as you can make her tired with it, who cares about her acting aggressive? I be she's not too aggressive after an hour of it. She probably just has some water and lays on the floor. the more tired my dog is, the happier I am!!
he doesnt want the flirt pole to make his dogs aggression go up.
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The flirt pole is the best and Cain's most favorite toys. It doesnt make any more aggressive that i can see, but different dogs take in differently.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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The flirt pole is the best and Cain's most favorite toys. It doesnt make any more aggressive that i can see, but different dogs take in differently.
i think he said it perfectly. you will notice if your dog is becoming aggressive. i dont think there is anything to worry about but each dog is different
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I think it can go both ways. If you are working at increasing the drive of your dog with a flirt pole or fetch the dog can become obessed with this and it can trigger aggression. On the other hand you are working the dogs and the dog is tired and feels relaxed at the end of the work out it might not be aggressive. I think you need to pay close attention to the dog and see when they start to slow down maybe switch to a calm exercise like a walk or a swim then a good rub down and I think the dog will be less inclined to turn aggressive.



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I have three cats and use the flirt pole with Layla - actually one of my cats joins in for some flirt pole fun!! (we use it in the house sometimes).....anyways I don't think that it would cause her to become aggressive.
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Not to hijack but I was wondering what is a good age to start allowing your dog to use flirt poles and spring poles? My pup is about 5 months and I think the flirt pole would be ok to let him use now, but should I wait on the spring pole 'til he's older?
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