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Old 02-01-2010, 01:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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i have a Grand Carpet Mill too.The guy who makes them lives 2 miles away from me and does great work.Youll be pleased with the quality
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A slat mill is a fee spinning mill used to build wind in a dog (when they fought them) and overall conditioning. It was named slat mill due to the belt it was on was made of wood slats attached to a canvas/leather belt. It goes as fast or slow as your dog wants to go.

A carpet mill has more resistance and builds more muscle. The belt sits on a slick surface but the surface contact creates friction which makes it hard to turn and therfore builds more muscle.

Both are great tools for conditioning dogs, both can ruin a dog if you dont know what you are doing.
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:06 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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out of curiosity how could it ruin a dog?Dont mean to thread jack,but id like to know so i dont do it.
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Hmm... Slat mill sounds wonderful... Price, not so much. I'm looking at these things fooling myself that they appear easy to build. Understandably I see one with a hydraulic disc braking system and an electric speedometer, which makes things a lil more complex, but as for the basic machine itself, what am I missing?

To me it appears you have your frame built out of w/e. You then seem to have a series of rollers forming the "ground" that the dog will run one. After that you have a belt, which appears to sit rather loosely in some cases, that is placed over the rollers. Pop the dog into harness, place dog on belt, encourage dog to run, rollers allow belt to move, dog's working towards calender picture status and olympic marathon runner endurance.

What am I missing? I have a hard time convincing myself things so expensive can be so simple.
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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Hey demios when you figure it out, let me know lol and I dont think it could be that hard to build im going to buy a carpet mill I think but a slat mill is expensive, so let me know if ya build one! lol
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alot of people build there own using rollerblade wheels and bearings.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
 

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Hmm... So from what I gather the real difference between the slat and the carpet is that in the carpet application the carpet belt is simply sitting on a smooth low-friction surface. When the dog moves then on a carpet mill, the only thing moving is the carpet belt. The slat mill then utilizes a series of rollers, which give to the motion of the belt. The belt and the surface which it's moving on is all moving, creating an overall lower-friction system. Thus the carpet works muscle, the slat works cardio/wind.

If the above is correct, then theoretically one could simply buy some carpet, cut a strip out of it, throw it over a table, and stitch the ends together. Then build up a frame off the table to attach the harness to and boom. Of course this is a rather mickey mouse approach but that's the basics, correct?

With the slat mill then the real cost comes down to the rollers you use. The fabbing of the frame is straightforward enough, then just mount the rollers down the middle to the frame, attach your belt, and good 2 go.

Excellent, will have to make an investigative home depot run and price this all out.
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where do people get them at? Do they buy them or build them?
I know a guy right close to you that builds them alexis just hit me up and i will give you his number!!
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what do you think about a cat mill? or a pony?
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
 

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So I was having a smoke and tried thinking of a poor man's solution to a slat mill. The goal was to devise the cheapest, easiest to acquire and assembly unit.

So for materials I figured wood. Could use something like 2"x4" beams for the framework, reinforce the joints with metal gussets. For the rollers, you could use something like 3" or w/e diameter wood pole lengths. Cut them down to 15" a piece. You then mark the center of your cut poles. In the center cross beam drill holes spaced out according to your centers. IE: If using 3" pole, drill the holes in the crossbeam 3" apart. The size of the hole should be smaller then the head of the wood screw you're going to put through it, but larger then the actual threaded screw part itself. You then screw into the post through the crossbeam, leaving a little sticking out to allow for the rotation of the post.

Harness would attach to a crossbeam running in between the top beams. You'd also want to supportive beams from the ground to the crossbeams that the rollers attach to as this will be the most loaded area with the dog on it. Build it strong.

That's the cheapest of the cheap ways I could think of to do so. Would have to price out materials at your local building supply store. Might build one this upcoming weekend if it's cheap enough to do. If I do I'll post up a pictured step by step DIY for a low quality but functional mill. Fun stuff. I also don't see why not, if done right, it wouldn't be easy enough to allow for adjustable degrees of slope.
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wat about an emill so info plz
i walk my boy up 2 3hrs a day give or take depending on the weather the result i want is not achieved yet
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so I got a tread mill last night and I dont have meek hooked to it (electric mill) so does it matter how much he runs on it since he can freely get off or should I limit it? He is 6mths old.
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:23 AM   #28 (permalink)
 

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I'd recommend limiting their use for a couple reasons. One, at 6 mnths they're still developing a lot and you don't want to overwork their developing joints, bones, and muscles. Two, it's really hard to get a read of when your dog is being overworked. APBTs in particular could very well be extremely tired but be continuing with the same determination they had at the beginning, showing little to no signs of exhaustion.

I'd say start off low, giving them some time on the treadmill, like 5 mins, then take em off, see how they are, what they do afterwards, etc. You want to keep them hydrated too of course. Then just increase the time spent on it slowly. That way you can gauge what's good for your dog and stop things before it gets potentially damaging.

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