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Old 01-13-2010, 03:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Now that Enzo is 6 months I would like to start conditioning him. Right now I play with him on the flirt pole about 30 mins a day, play fetch about 15mins a days, and go on walks/jogs about 30 mins a day. Once it starts to warm up and the sun starts to set a lil later I will be increasing those times. I know his diet also has a big impact when conditioning. What dog foods do you recommend that I should feed him? I also give Enzo carrots, apples, and bananas for treats. Is there anything else I can give him or any supplements for dogs. I myself am huge on supplements while working out but Im not sure if the same goes for dogs or if they even have them for dogs.

Thanks in advanced for any input/suggestions.

Conditioning dogs in new to me. I wish I could bring him to the gym with me to work out but I dont think that will work out too well lol

This is what he looked like a couple weeks ago at about 40lbs.
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What you are doing now is fine the only thing that bothers me is .. Do you actually jog with him at 6 months of age? You should not be jogging him at this age.. I know you shouldnt run/jog a dog on hard surfaces until they are at least a year of age. I know a few on here disagree. But I am firm believer you need to allow the bones to grow properly w/o impact. I know you are probably asking yourself .. "well the dog runs" well there is a difference between him doing his own impact b/c he can justify when he should stop. When you are running/jogging with him.. "your goal" is more focused on yourself then your dogs body so you push the dog to run your distance and time. (saying this in general, not you persay)

Food, well you want to feed a low carb more protein diet no matter what food you feed. I am a big avocate of raw diet but there is excellent quality kibbles, good quailty kibbles, ok kibble and just plain garbage. but that is up to you on what you believe you dog should eat

Now suppliments: at this age you really need to just give him calicum w/ D, glucosamine w/ manganesium, fish oil and a multi vitamin
He is to young for the weight gainers.

He looks great now .. keep up the GREAT work

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Old 01-13-2010, 03:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I agree 100% No jogging on hard surfaces and I think no jogging at all. It really takes a toll on the growing body. At 6 months of age the workout your doing it fine when your pup gets to be about 8-9 months is when you can start to increase exercise. You can do a lot for damage by doing too much with a young pup. At about 8 months I start to work them on the flirt pole more but I never (even on the adult dogs) do sharp turns or jumps. I have some serious athletes at my house and (knock on wood) I have no orthopedic issues with any of my working dogs old or young.

I do use some supplements but I only use them on adults and around show season. I use muscle up powder and it really works on adding extra definition to my dogs. Now you are always limited to a dogs genetics but you can use supplements.

Wait just a bit longer and keep doing what your doing, you will start to see a change in your dog at around 8 months, some males mature slower so do not be in a rush. And if you are planning to neuter him wait till he is fully grown.
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Thanks for all the input. Unfortunately he has already been neutered. We got him neutered at about 5 1/2 months.

Where can you buy/order the supplements from. I dont want to put him on any yet but for the future when he is closer to being 1 year

When we go on walks I mainly hand walk him and we only jog for a lil. Usually short distances with rest in between
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... And if you are planning to neuter him wait till he is fully grown.
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Dude, please let the pup grow. Right now he is 3 1/2 years old in human years. Would you work out a baby that age? You will have plenty of time to condition him. Thatt is if you take proper care of him.
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Dude, please let the pup grow. Right now he is 3 1/2 years old in human years. Would you work out a baby that age? You will have plenty of time to condition him. Thatt is if you take proper care of him.
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I'm not doing hardcore conditioning but I want him to be fit. Im not taking him on mile jogs or have him on a mill. Call me crazy but yes I would work out my kid at 3 1/2 years old. I dont have any kids and I honestly dont plan on having any kids but Im a health freak. There is all different kinds of workouts you can do that will not strain anything or affect the body like swimming and simply walking.
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at 7 months I started conditioning Riley.

I walk riley for 30mins
I allow her springpole for about 30 mins
and I also do alittle weight pull with her
Fetch and I do a few obed training about 16mins a day
she is 9 months now and I am starting to get more active with her. for awhile I stopped because It was either too cold or raining here but with summer coming we will be doing alot of stuff outside.

I don't see anything wrong with conditioning your dog low grade but I'd listen to everyone. I didn't start off with long walks They are short and we walk (low impact on joints) I also started riley off with 2 pound weights for pulling at 7 months and started introducing her to the springpole at 7 months aswell, low to the ground so she was touching. I learned all of this and am very happy alot of people on here gave me some great tips!
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Your dog is fit, I am not sure what you are trying to achieve? You can see a nice waist line on him. I dont understand why so many people want to work their pups. Sure you can push him now and pay the consequences later when he has joiint problems or dysplasia. Your dogs genetics will determine its comformation, you can certantly achieve the conditioned ripped look by feeding the right things, workouts, rub downs and letting the dog rest properly when the dog is old enough. But right now your dog is just a puppy and to be honest he will look very nice once he is conditioned at the right age but as far as muscle is concerned your dog will be shaped more along the lines of most traditional APBT taller, leggier and leaner.
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Everything I do with Enzo is very minimal. I walk him daily about a half mile. I play with him on the flirt pole low to the ground with no jumping about 15min daily and we also play fetch about 30-45min total daily.

I dont do anything intense with him because I know he is a puppy and is still growing. But I still like for him to get excerise. To be honest I have to hold him back, he has too much energy and would jog the whole time on our walks and play fetch til he falls over.
I take him out in the backyard 3-4 times after I get home from work and Im out there about 15min at a time. On the weekends I normally just leave the sliding glass door open for him and he does his own thing. But we still do some excersing
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Your dog is fit, I am not sure what you are trying to achieve? You can see a nice waist line on him. I dont understand why so many people want to work their pups. Sure you can push him now and pay the consequences later when he has joiint problems or dysplasia. Your dogs genetics will determine its comformation, you can certantly achieve the conditioned ripped look by feeding the right things, workouts, rub downs and letting the dog rest properly when the dog is old enough. But right now your dog is just a puppy and to be honest he will look very nice once he is conditioned at the right age but as far as muscle is concerned your dog will be shaped more along the lines of most traditional APBT taller, leggier and leaner.
I'm not worried about muscle tone right now as he is still a pup but in the future once he is full grown and out of his puppy stage I will like for him to be more lean.
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Everything I do with Enzo is very minimal. I walk him daily about a half mile. I play with him on the flirt pole low to the ground with no jumping about 15min daily and we also play fetch about 30-45min total daily.

I dont do anything intense with him because I know he is a puppy and is still growing. But I still like for him to get excerise. To be honest I have to hold him back, he has too much energy and would jog the whole time on our walks and play fetch til he falls over.
I take him out in the backyard 3-4 times after I get home from work and Im out there about 15min at a time. On the weekends I normally just leave the sliding glass door open for him and he does his own thing. But we still do some excersing
everything you are doing with enzo is perfect! I asked about conditioning more and I cant up it till a year. poop
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Everything I do with Enzo is very minimal. I walk him daily about a half mile. I play with him on the flirt pole low to the ground with no jumping about 15min daily and we also play fetch about 30-45min total daily.

I dont do anything intense with him because I know he is a puppy and is still growing. But I still like for him to get excerise. To be honest I have to hold him back, he has too much energy and would jog the whole time on our walks and play fetch til he falls over.
I take him out in the backyard 3-4 times after I get home from work and Im out there about 15min at a time. On the weekends I normally just leave the sliding glass door open for him and he does his own thing. But we still do some excersing
If you had a place for him to swim it would be awesome for the dog, low stress on the joints and it would absolutely kill him lol I remember the days of owning a super hyper dog so I know what you must be going through. I'd say as long as you keep the work on padded surfaces not the concrete let the dog burn some energy. Just remember to let the dog warm up before any quick turning and stopping on the flirtpole, you dont want him tearing a knees. Also remember to let him rest plenty and make sure he sleeps on a nice padded surface too. It must be hard because I know you want to hold him back and he is probably hyper wanting more, but once the time is right you can open him up.
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If you had a place for him to swim it would be awesome for the dog, low stress on the joints and it would absolutely kill him lol I remember the days of owning a super hyper dog so I know what you must be going through. I'd say as long as you keep the work on padded surfaces not the concrete let the dog burn some energy. Just remember to let the dog warm up before any quick turning and stopping on the flirtpole, you dont want him tearing a knees. Also remember to let him rest plenty and make sure he sleeps on a nice padded surface too. It must be hard because I know you want to hold him back and he is probably hyper wanting more, but once the time is right you can open him up.
My parents have a pool at their house and my friend has a lake that Enzo's sister swims but its too cold. The only swimming action he is getting right now is in the bath tub when he gets a bath lol. He def is a well rested pup lol, he is in his crate from 830a-530p M-F and then he takes a nap after our walk and some playtime in the back. I have a pillow and a microfiber blanket in his crate to keep him warm and also to give him padding when he is in there. At night he sleeps in the bed with me and the woman.

I make sure he is warmed up before any flirtpole/fetch. I dont want him to get injured plus vet bills arent that great
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everything you are doing with enzo is perfect! I asked about conditioning more and I cant up it till a year. poop
Yea I cant wait til he is a year, this lil guy is CRAZY! I have never seen a pup with this much energy. Him and his sister are like night and day
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