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Old 02-01-2010, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hey y'all,
I was wondering if any of you could help me out.
My dog is 7.5 months, almost 8.
He runs with me daily, about 2-4 miles. Its kinda hard on him I see, hes a big dog because currently he weighs 68lbs.
Is that too much for him or is it okay?
I just don't want him to have joint problems later on.
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I would think you have to start him off slowly to build up his stamina..If he can handle it , your probably fine. I think I'd start off with a mile then increase it after a couple weeks. just my 2 pennies
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if you have been doing it since he was a pup I see no problem. I see no problem in you running your dog even now since he does run when he plays so it wont hurt him.
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It doesn't say what part of the country you are in , but if it is warm where you are keep the exercise to early in the morning. The heat can be difficult on the bully breeds. I'm in Chicago so right now it's freezing cold so I have no problem exercizing the dogs {and me }, but when June and July come it's only possible to go out in the AM - usually around 4.30. Just watch out for overheating.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Your dog can't tell you that there's a lot of impact on his joints from running. He is still a puppy, and being a big one I would do a lot shorter distances, 2-4 miles is quite the impact on his joints. It's funny people will say it's ok but these dogs have a high pain tolerance and will do whatever you are doing, or putting them to the task. So consider that he is like a child, and also take his weight into consideration. A couple months down the road I don't see it being that big of a deal but if youve been running him before this youve been stressing his joints more than they needed. JMO
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That is really far for a puppy. Repetitive impact on a growing puppy's joints can be dangerous. You could damage a growth plate or cause more joint problems down the road. Especially since you said it is already hard on him I would walk more than run. You do not want to put pups on big workouts like that till they are 1 years old or you can get x-rays done and see if if he is done growing. IMO I would wait till a year for heavy running like that.

If you are running on dirt or grass that is better but if you have been on concrete or asphalt I would worry about joint damage.

when I am working with my performance dogs in sports I work them out when young but they are only doing it for short periods of time in sand. I run them with jumps low like 8" for mo more than 30 secs at a time in agility. Then when they are 11-12 months they can handle full workouts.
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I walk Riley for almost 1 mile now and I had my last pit we would walk a good 4 miles everyday and she is fine now. what about wolves and dogs in the wild that have to run and walk for miles at a time? they are all fine. JMO
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Wolves in the wild are not running at a set speed for miles at a time on asphalt. walking is different running or jogging at a set pace for miles at a time are hard on the joints. When wild animals hunt they rely on ambush and short bursts of speed to hunt, they do not chase deer over 3-4 miles at a set speed at 8 months old.
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Thanks a lot all of you, very helpful. I guess ill have to run alone till hes a year old.
or maybe run a little bring him home and continue my run. I just moved to live in the northwest so we don't have warm temperatures until mid June I hear. its about 50 degrees most of the time right now.
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That is really far for a puppy. Repetitive impact on a growing puppy's joints can be dangerous. You could damage a growth plate or cause more joint problems down the road. Especially since you said it is already hard on him I would walk more than run. You do not want to put pups on big workouts like that till they are 1 years old or you can get x-rays done and see if if he is done growing. IMO I would wait till a year for heavy running like that.

If you are running on dirt or grass that is better but if you have been on concrete or asphalt I would worry about joint damage.

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Wolves in the wild are not running at a set speed for miles at a time on asphalt. walking is different running or jogging at a set pace for miles at a time are hard on the joints. When wild animals hunt they rely on ambush and short bursts of speed to hunt, they do not chase deer over 3-4 miles at a set speed at 8 months old.

Well Said!!!! 3-4 miles breaks down to about a 40 minute jog am I correct?? That's constant stress on the joints. I like the part about short bursts reminds me of watching the lions on discovery channel growing up

Rileyroo, you might think it's ok, because a dog will not say "hey man, this is going to stunt my growth", but the consistency is what does the harm. And most people run or jog on the sidewalk, not through foliage and grass.
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Well Said!!!! 3-4 miles breaks down to about a 40 minute jog am I correct?? That's constant stress on the joints. I like the part about short bursts reminds me of watching the lions on discovery channel growing up

Rileyroo, you might think it's ok, because a dog will not say "hey man, this is going to stunt my growth", but the consistency is what does the harm. And most people run or jog on the sidewalk, not through foliage and grass.
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4 to 5 weeks a wolf cub will take short trips outside the den
buy 6 week old wolf cubs will walk 1 mile with the pack
it will travel with the pack at 12 weeks but not hunt
and at 6 to 8 months wolf cubs will join in the hunt and travel long distances.

I also would like to add, wolves dont do the burst of speed cats use, sometimes yes they do if the prey runs but they always pace themselves even in the chase, which is why they can go for miles. infact L. David Mech said he knew of a wolf that chased a deer for 13 miles before killing it.
(ok, so those are wolves NOT dogs got that established)


and...


wait, did he say he jogged the WHOLE 4 miles or off and on? cause i never jogged any of my dogs. I have a bad knee, I would walk Anubis for 4 to 5 miles.

and why do I see people strapping up pups to mills and running them for nearly 2 hours straight everyday 3 times a day? isnt that bad too?
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correction,
4 to 5 weeks a wolf cub will take short trips outside the den
buy 6 week old wolf cubs will walk 1 mile with the pack
it will travel with the pack at 12 weeks but not hunt
and at 6 to 8 months wolf cubs will join in the hunt and travel long distances.

I also would like to add, wolves dont do the burst of speed cats use, sometimes yes they do if the prey runs but they always pace themselves even in the chase, which is why they can go for miles. infact L. David Mech said he knew of a wolf that chased a deer for 13 miles before killing it.
(ok, so those are wolves NOT dogs got that established)


and...


wait, did he say he jogged the WHOLE 4 miles or off and on? cause i never jogged any of my dogs. I have a bad knee, I would walk Anubis for 4 to 5 miles.

and why do I see people strapping up pups to mills and running them for nearly 2 hours straight everyday 3 times a day? isnt that bad too?
Thanks for the info,
I jog my dog 3-4 miles straight I slow down a little at the end but most of the time I'm at a steady pace.
I jog on concrete because its way out of my way to jog on sand or even grass.
So what do you think, should i lower the speed or should i decrease the distance?
My dog seems fine but he never shows any signs of pain, so i never know if he has any pain.
"and why do I see people strapping up pups to mills and running them for nearly 2 hours straight everyday 3 times a day? isnt that bad too?"
what do you mean by that? how does that work?
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Who straps their pups into mills for 2-3 hours? Sounds like some exaggeration. Millwork should only be anywhere from 5 minutes to half an hour tops. But it's still not pavement.
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correction,
4 to 5 weeks a wolf cub will take short trips outside the den
buy 6 week old wolf cubs will walk 1 mile with the pack
it will travel with the pack at 12 weeks but not hunt
and at 6 to 8 months wolf cubs will join in the hunt and travel long distances.

I also would like to add, wolves dont do the burst of speed cats use, sometimes yes they do if the prey runs but they always pace themselves even in the chase, which is why they can go for miles. infact L. David Mech said he knew of a wolf that chased a deer for 13 miles before killing it.
(ok, so those are wolves NOT dogs got that established)


and...


wait, did he say he jogged the WHOLE 4 miles or off and on? cause i never jogged any of my dogs. I have a bad knee, I would walk Anubis for 4 to 5 miles.

and why do I see people strapping up pups to mills and running them for nearly 2 hours straight everyday 3 times a day? isnt that bad too?
When you say travel that means mostly walking, that is alot different still then RUNNING on pavement.

Glad we're getting feedback from the expert here LMAO
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Your missing my point, cubs do not run for a consistent pace on a hard surface. You also have to consider that wolves mature more quickly than a domesticated dog. Everything in their structure and size happens quickly or they would not be able to survive. If you left any pet in the wild it would most likely die or get eaten by another predator. Domestic dogs mature slow and it takes 10-12 months sometimes longer for them to be fully mature. To say you can run your pup because wolves do it is is comparing apples to oranges.

It is well documented in dog sports like agility that doing too much too quick can really do damage to a growing dog. So yes jogging can hurt your pup IMO you should wait till at least 10-11 months.
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