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Old 01-07-2011, 04:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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The choker is a very effective tool when used properly.
When you pop that collar with a swift jerk most dogs will follow.
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Why don't you have two separate walks? One allows him to explore and sniff all he wants and the second is a "walk walk", where he walks at your pace.

Honestly, in the beginning, if he isn't actively pulling on the leash to pull, but is pulling on it to go sniff something and explore, I would let him do it. Let him sniff all the things there are to sniff and get it out of his system; stick to the same path every day. It makes it less likely over time that he will want to sniff every single rock, tree, grass waving in the wind, if he's exposed to the same rock, tree, and grass waving in the wind every day. As he gets used to being on walks, that's when I would require him to stick closer to me.
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Chokers are a very effective tool -- but they aren't for every dog.

My boy Kane is very soft. If I used a choker on him, he would shut down and look at me like I'm the spawn of satan. You have to judge whether the choker is appropriate for your dog.
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if he just sits down again after i pop the collar and not move?
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I wouldnt work on leash manners until he gets the confidence to be outside in a harness. ONce the guy goes out every time with no problems and wants to keep going then I would work on collar trainning.
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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You should not be correcting the dog if he doesnt trust you.
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I'm not sure that if that comment is directed at me, but Kane does trust me. I just get more out of him if I use less harsher methods than a choke chain.
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Chokers are a very effective tool -- but they aren't for every dog.

My boy Kane is very soft. If I used a choker on him, he would shut down and look at me like I'm the spawn of satan. You have to judge whether the choker is appropriate for your dog.
yeap thats like Tank
would you let Kane play with other dogs?
if so does Kane try dominate the other dogs?

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I wouldnt work on leash manners until he gets the confidence to be outside in a harness. ONce the guy goes out every time with no problems and wants to keep going then I would work on collar trainning.
i think your right
and it makes alot of sence
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I'm not sure that if that comment is directed at me, but Kane does trust me. I just get more out of him if I use less harsher methods than a choke chain.
Well if your method hasnt worked perhaps you should consider that maybe you cant tell what is trust. I have trained and showed more dogs than some people have owned.

But the proper thing for me to do now is to just say....Good luck.
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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?????

I think it's a bit much to say that the only method that works for every dog is to use a choke chain?? And that if the choke chain doesn't work, than obviously I'm a defective owner with a dog that doesn't trust me.

Actually, I'm really quite angry at that insinuation.

You should only use the training methods that work best for you and your dog. Period.

A choker is not appropriate for me or my dog. End of story.
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You should not be correcting the dog if he doesnt trust you.
i do hope he trusts me

i just hope i can get him to get out dont really care if he pulls strays but i thought that that shouldn't be alowed as an owner so that is why i tried to stop him from sniffing everything ?

i guess i stuffed up
i hope by him having a harness wont still freak him out and make him not pull?

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Well if your method hasnt worked perhaps you should consider that maybe you cant tell what is trust. I have trained and showed more dogs than some people have owned.

But the proper thing for me to do now is to just say....Good luck.
I am sort of running into little issues with Bernie because he is getting a little sloppy and doesn't react to commands immediately. When I change my posture and make a more dominant body language display he does in an instant. I do not want it to be like that though, I want it to be easy listening and following commands. I am taking another class in February so I am hoping that this will help brush up on obedience and get more bonding with us and Bernie. I want him to listen because he wants to please me not because he is afraid of me.
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yeap thats like Tank
would you let Kane play with other dogs?
if so does Kane try dominate the other dogs?
Unfortunately, I really don't have the time to answer these questions with the appropriate forethought, lol. I have to be to work in 15 mins.

I will answer these questions when I get home tonight.
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a snug harness and a little jog every morning will help your dogs confidence.
Once the dog trusts you, then you can gently start with proper leash training.
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understand your dog's dominance level and style of play. always start with the opossite sex and make sure you know the owner of the dog and that they are alright with the interactions. Do not bring any toys or food and keep a close watch on their language and play.
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