I understand that is a tool and should only be used appropriately. I never said using a choke collar was wrong or torture.
I simply said that not every training method works for every dog -- which is true. I also said that using the choke collar is not appropriate for me and my dog -- which is also true. And then you suddenly came out with that maybe I should reconsider my methods if they weren't working (which, maybe you confused me and the OP because I never said that I had any issues with the method I use) because that meant my dog didn't trust me.
And I have to be honest -- telling a fellow dog owner that their dog doesn't trust them over the internet is highly offensive. You don't know them or their dog or their relationship with their dog based on the limited view you get from what they say on the internet.
When I used an appropriately placed and used choke collar on Kane, he listened to me yes, but he wasn't happy. His body language screamed that he would be anywhere other than with me and eventually he shut down on me. That is not how I want my dog to react to my training methods. Obviously it wasn't working for him. He learns and listens a lot better when I use other, less harsher methods.
Also if it wasn't used as punishment, but only as an attention getter, than why does it constrict around the neck when a simple leash pop on a regular collar would serve to get the dogs attention? I am only asking out of curiosity to hear your explanation.