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Old 01-07-2011, 04:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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I am sort of running into little issues with Bernie because he is getting a little sloppy and doesn't react to commands immediately. When I change my posture and make a more dominant body language display he does in an instant. I do not want it to be like that though, I want it to be easy listening and following commands. I am taking another class in February so I am hoping that this will help brush up on obedience and get more bonding with us and Bernie. I want him to listen because he wants to please me not because he is afraid of me.
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For the person who took offense...a choke collar is not a torture device.
It is a collar and a good tool when used properly.
A choke collar is not to be used as way to punish..it should be used only as an attention getter.
Treats of praise are much more important than correction...but both must be used in correct ways.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I understand that is a tool and should only be used appropriately. I never said using a choke collar was wrong or torture.

I simply said that not every training method works for every dog -- which is true. I also said that using the choke collar is not appropriate for me and my dog -- which is also true. And then you suddenly came out with that maybe I should reconsider my methods if they weren't working (which, maybe you confused me and the OP because I never said that I had any issues with the method I use) because that meant my dog didn't trust me.

And I have to be honest -- telling a fellow dog owner that their dog doesn't trust them over the internet is highly offensive. You don't know them or their dog or their relationship with their dog based on the limited view you get from what they say on the internet.

When I used an appropriately placed and used choke collar on Kane, he listened to me yes, but he wasn't happy. His body language screamed that he would be anywhere other than with me and eventually he shut down on me. That is not how I want my dog to react to my training methods. Obviously it wasn't working for him. He learns and listens a lot better when I use other, less harsher methods.

Also if it wasn't used as punishment, but only as an attention getter, than why does it constrict around the neck when a simple leash pop on a regular collar would serve to get the dogs attention? I am only asking out of curiosity to hear your explanation.
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