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Old 01-07-2011, 01:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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its been 2 years but im back need some advice

hi firstly this site has changed less places to post ?
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anyways i hope this place is as good as any to post!

i own a 1.5yr old male pit who doesn't want to go for walks!
he sits down as soon as we get to the end of the drive way?

but if he is off the lead he will wonder everywhere !
im thinking to get someone to come and help me train him but i want to try here first

i have a large back yard and i play with him for over an hour every day
fetch "kind of" which turns into
tug of war
then once im tired i play with the flirt stick

i want to get him to the point where i can get him to start pulling

also he has yet to get angry?
i know i know im not looking for an aggresive dog but he has no attitude at all which i find strange
i know its my fualt but unsure how to correct it?


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Did you just recently acquire this dog, or have you had him since he was a pup? Have you done any obedience training with him? I need answers to these questions before I can further assist you.
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You should be happy your dog doesn't have an attitude or display agressive tendencies. The good ones are very stable dogs. I think your dog might be afraid of the noise and objects outside of your home and that is why he doesn't want to walk. Did you try walking him when he was a pup?
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yes i walked him when he was a pup and i stopped him from trying to smell everything and tried to get him to walk by my side well since then or better that time he just sat down i tried dragging him and nothing still sat there i had to let him go and i walked away and he tokk his sweat ass time to follow but yeah he hates the lead and me trying to keep him by my side only on the out side of my property? no noise very quite street area he runs on the street supervsed but he is an ilegal breed here in SYD AUS so i can have that happen anymore iv been trying to let him get used to the street before i try again its been 2 months of leting him out and i want the next try to be right so any advice?

when he is out he doesn't go fare maybe max 3 house up!
should i wait till he just starts running up the street by him self first before i try to harnes him up?

it would be nice to one day get him to start pulling i know he would love that!
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try using a walking harness that lets him pull in front of you. Maybe yoiu can help build confidence like that. It is difficult to know what techniques you used but generally speaking training to walk on the collar is a bit of a process and it takes time. If you dont space it out enough the dog will not respond properly and will grow to hate it.
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I worked with Bernie starting at 4 months of age on short heeling sessions. I started without distractions and using treats and slowly started to increase distance and increase distractions. It has to be a very delicate process in my opinion. Dogs go through fear stages as well as maturity and they tend to dominate and not listen. I believe in possitive reinforcement I did not use prong collars or choke collars. In fact I used a collar that barely offers any kind of control but I taught the dog to play the game and follow my pace.
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Leash walk the dog on your property. Get him used to it again with praise and all that. Then after a few walks around the property lead him gently to a little walk around the drive way. The next training session a little further and further until he trusts you enough to lead him.
It sounds to me you may have went to hard on him with your last training method.
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Here is my Bernie at 8 months of age:

Our philosophy is when you are on the collar you follow direction and space of the handler. When you go on the walking harness go nuts lol

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when he is out he doesn't go fare maybe max 3 house up!
should i wait till he just starts running up the street by him self first before i try to harnes him up?

No no no....never let a dog wonder....NEVER EVER NEVER...no not never
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thanks guys i knew there was another way i spoke with a dog trainer/walker who said he could get him to walk no problem with a choker but that just turned me off i dont want no choker anywhere near him as he is more Submissive than dominate

how does your dogs go with dog parks?
and does it help to have another person walk there dog and your dog follow?

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thanks guy i knew there was another way i spoke with a dog trainer/walker who said he could get him to walk no problem with a choker but just turned me off i dont want no choker anywhere near him as he is more Submissive than dominate

how does your dogs go with dog parks?
and does it help to have another person walk there dog and your dog follow?
Fighting breeds do not belong in dog parks, you are asking for trouble. Your dog may not start a fight but it can surely finish it and the end the pit bull is at fault you know? not worth risking your dog..

Think of walking as a game and not restriction, a choke collar and prong collars are tools that some people use. I don't really care for them because If show people can handle a 150 pound great dane on a tiny collar and leash in front of all those dogs and people then theres gotta be a way to do the same at home and in the neighborhood.
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I don't take molossers to dog parks.
I use chokers and they do the job of keeping a dog on the leash
where as regular collars will allow a dog to slip out when pulled.
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Fighting breeds do not belong in dog parks, you are asking for trouble. Your dog may not start a fight but it can surely finish it and the end the pit bull is at fault you know? not worth risking your dog..

Think of walking as a game and not restriction, a choke collar and prong collars are tools that some people use. I don't really care for them because If show people can handle a 150 pound great dane on a tiny collar and leash in front of all those dogs and people then theres gotta be a way to do the same at home and in the neighborhood.
When I show my Neo's or Dogos, every dog in the show is on a slim choker.
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Our philosophy is when you are on the collar you follow direction and space of the handler. When you go on the walking harness go nuts lol

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thats alsome thank you so much i will definitely start asap with this
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When I show my Neo's or Dogos, every dog in the show is on a slim choker.
that's what I mean a tiny choker the dog listens to you, you know what I am saying. I should have called a tiny choker instead of mini collar lol but still if you have a dog that is not leash trained a tiny choker is not going to stop it lol your dogs listen to you and they heel and behave on such a minimum restrictive tool.
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