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Old 01-11-2011, 03:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Dog won't hold weight

I've had Birdie, a GSP, for a few months, and when I first got her, she was fat as a hog. She also had allergies out the nose from the crappy food she was eating, and most of her weight was swelling and water retention.

Now that she's on a grain-free kibble (she can't handle raw digestion) and looking good, she's buff and has muscle to die for. If only my pit could look so good! The only problem is she looks anorexic. Her hips and backbone just show, and her ribs are obvious with a very tight tuck behind them into her abdomen. She does have muscle over her ribs, btw.

I'm currently feeding her 3 cups of TOTW fowl formula, since she had soft stool on the bison and venison. If I offer her more than that, she'll pick at it but won't commit to actually eating it. I feed liver treats during training.

I'd take a picture, but she's a mostly white dog with liver patches over the spine and hips, and it refuses to turn out right in any of the pictures I take.

What can I do to put more fat on her? Because she's so skinny she shakes from 60 degree weather, and is miserable if I don't put a coat on her for short walks.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Have you tried Satin balls? They have cereal in them so you might have to omit that and anything she's allergic to.

You could just add some oil or lard on her food.

How old is she? Have you had bloodwork done on her?
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
 

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She's 3ish, and yes she had blood work done in November. Everything came back normal.

The problem with satin balls is that she doesn't digest raw very well, and will puke at least once after eating some of it. Sometimes it's straight bile, which I understand is a sign that their stomach is completely empty. If I skip a feeding on her kibble, she'll do the same thing.
Is there anything I can add to the satin balls to make it easier on her stomach? Maybe make them small and feed throughout the day?
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The other day while i was at the pet store, I saw that there's "gravy" that can be added to dry kibble for flavor. I forget the actual name, but gravy was in the title. Maybe something like that can be added to her kibble to make it more appealing to her?

Sorry I cant be of more help on how to add some weight on her, but its an idea.
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When I was feeding my dogs raw I had to feed them multiple times a day or else they would do the same thing. Just yak on empty stomachs. You could add them to her current meals in small amounts.
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
 

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I'll look around for cheap ground beef, thanks for the tips!
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Is she a highly active dog?? In the sense that she is burning off the food that she eats?

Really hard to tell with at least some pictures... You know that every sees fat and thin in a different light..lol
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
 

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She is a highly active dog, but doesn't get out as much as she probably needs to. I take her to the fields once a week to run for 1-3 hours (run as in full tilt, doesn't slow down except to randomly point and pee, and keeps racing on), and hand walk her once a day for 3-6 miles, at a moderate pace.

Pictures will be attempted as soon as I've had my coffee!
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You could try adding an egg once to twice a week you could scramble it if she can not eat it raw. I give my girl her egg mixed in her dry kibble. Also I have had ggod luck over the years feeding a white rice and hamburger mix( cooked) to my dogs food. In fact "45" my new rescue is still getting this and is looking good just wish I could get him walking better.



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Old 01-11-2011, 12:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
 

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As usual, she absolutely REFUSES to stand so that I can take a picture. She acts like I'm beating her if I try to manipulate her body for a picture. It's so frustrating.
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im no expert but i would like to suggest something i feed Tank
in the morning i mix up a bowl of 4cups of kibble with about 100grams of rolled oats 1 egg some full cream milk powder then i mix it up with water
i found that he eats all of the food if it has milk powder but if it has too much his poo is runny and or soft

i find that the oats with there complex carbs are great for energy
egg protein and fats
milk powder calcium fats + helps with the dry foods
kibble 22% protein 10%fat

nights i feed bones such as lamb ribs chicken carcass,wings,tips beef back bone
each of these has meat as well
if i feed Tank just meat as i have in the past he barfed once or twice
i still feed meat once or twice a week ?
i can guarantee that he will bolk up

sorry if i listed anything he cant eat or something you souldn't feed dogs
if anything like that is the case please advise me so i could stop

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Nutri Cal is what my mom gave to her Dachshund when she stopped eating because of her age. It is supposed to be a supplement to help put on weight and or maintain it.
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I just looked up the ingredients for Nutri cal and the main two are corn and soy... and I'm almost positive soy is what causes her to break out in very small hive like pimple clusters on her flanks.

Is there something comparable that is soy free?
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I was just browsing the internet and came across this one. No soy. Might help. Make sure you ask a few other folks on here what they think of it. I've never used it, but it looks pretty similar.
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This is my formula for weight gain I learned from Tim Parr, a UKC judge and breeder.
1 cup butter milk, 1 cup powdered goats milk, 1 or 2 tablespoons of sweetened and condensed milk.
Add to dry food and the dog will gain weight quickly.
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