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Old 01-19-2014, 04:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
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And, I am really sorry guys. If a dog appears to be an APBT, I am not going to tap-dance around that and say it is something else because of political correctness or fear.
But it could be something else! There are so many mixes that can look like they have ApBT in them, but they don't! You don't have to say its something else, you just say there is no way for you to tell (because there isn't).
Do you not own a dog? Do you not care about BSL?


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Old 01-19-2014, 04:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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He looks like a rot to me but goes to show you CANT base a dog off of looks!!
In some of those pics, that's what he looks like to me too (a Rott mix). What's wrong with SAYING that?

Of COURSE we don't know what his pedigree is!
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Now it's just beating a dead horse
I agree...
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:52 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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Shelters give an EDUCATED guess that's it. There guess is as good as anyone else's. Everybody knows what a shelter says a dog is could not be true. So many people say "the shelter had her marked as a whippet/chihuahua but I think she's a greyhound/chihuahua"

It's just an educated guess that's it
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:52 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:54 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Shelters give an EDUCATED guess that's it. There guess is as good as anyone else's. Everybody knows what a shelter says a dog is could not be true. So many people say "the shelter had her marked as a whippet/chihuahua but I think she's a greyhound/chihuahua"

It's just an educated guess that's it
isn't that what we do here?

Or is it that I can't do that with a dog that appears to be a Pit Bull?
Any other breed is okay to make an educated guess on? Just don't say, "Pit Bull"? Is that it?
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Old 01-19-2014, 04:59 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I will say (and have said this many times), that after my personal experiences with GSDs, Rottweilers, Labs, etc., that I am of the belief that my boy is GSD/Lab mix, but I don't tell anyone that when they ask what he is. I simply state he's a shelter mutt and I honestly don't know what he is, other than a neutered male. I've raised this dog, and have seen him go from looking like a Rott pup, to long and lean as an adult, and he's cow-hocked, and displays more traits of a GSD than a Rottie, although I know both are guardian breeds. He takes his job of being Guard Dog very seriously, and he's good at it, with no training. He is loved, fed, well cared for, and is a big marshmallow in the house with his humans. That's all that matters to me. I wanted a purebred with a pedigree, and that's what I got with my female. But, I know I can't expect everyone to think like I do when it comes to dogs... I can only do my best to educate.
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:05 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I will say (and have said this many times), that after my personal experiences with GSDs, Rottweilers, Labs, etc., that I am of the belief that my boy is GSD/Lab mix, but I don't tell anyone that when they ask what he is.
What is WRONG with saying, "he's from the shelter and we think he's a GSD/Lab mix", OR, "he's from the shelter and we think he's a GSD/Lab mix maybe with some Rott thrown in there!".

What are you afraid of?
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:22 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm not afraid of anything! I'm just honest. I DON'T know what he is, so why speculate? He's a wonderful dog, whether I know what he is, or don't. No need to assume anything. I don't care what he MIGHT be. He's an almost 3 yr old, neutered male, mixed breed dog. If I don't label him as anything, then nobody else can either.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:12 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Seriously Dreamer, That dog does NOT look like an apbt, Amstaff or Staffy. LOL... So it doesn't LOOK like a 'pit'. :P

I see a bulldog mix of some sort. Please learn about breeds before you start spewing out about other peoples dogs.

I actually compared her dog to one I own who I KNOW has American Bulldog in her. BUT she is also a MIXED MUTT. D:

OHH I like that. Sounds Exotic... Mixed Mutt. LOL
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:03 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Here's the way I look at it:

Nothing wrong with saying "we think he/she is [insert breed(s) here]". However, you learn to pick up on whether or not someone is looking for guesses because they're curious and those who are looking for the "experts" (and by that I mean fanciers of a particular breed, such as here on the forum) to confirm what they already believe their dog to be and have been calling their dog already.

Example: someone says "does my dog look pure? I was told it's 100% pit bull". They already believe they have an APBT, they are merely looking for us to confirm that so they can continue referring to their dog as such. The problem with that is and will continue to be that if/when these unknowns bite someone, get out of the yard and attack the neighbor's Shi Tzu or any other action that would land it in the papers it is going to be labeled as an APBT.

You may argue that it would be labeled as a pit bull anyway but therein lies the real problem. Because the media is content to lump these dogs - pure breeds and mutts alike - into the category of "pit bull" it has become commonplace for even advocates to follow suit. By doing this though you are only helping to fuel BSL because if owners of these dogs aren't willing to properly label their dogs then why should mass media? Bite statistics become skewed and the mass hysteria over the evil and unpredictable "pit bull" continues.
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The question is "could" this dog have APBT in her?

She might. There would likely be others who would see it that way, IMO.

One thing for sure, she is beautiful. I love her!!

I will say this, if you live in an area with a breed ban, I'd be nervous walking this dog around. Or if you were to visit an area, like say, Denver, I would leave her at home.
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Nice lookin dog no matter what it is!)
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I will say this, if you live in an area with a breed ban, I'd be nervous walking this dog around. Or if you were to visit an area, like say, Denver, I would leave her at home.
Agreed.

This is actually helpful to someone; to say yeah, at least
that the dog looks enough like a Pit Bull that it IS going to get looked at under BSL -- which don't go by pedigree or registration or DNA -- but by LOOKS -- and that the person needs to be careful in such areas.
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I DON'T know what he is, so why speculate? .
Because all dogs don't look alike, it's kind of a natural thing for humans to do?
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