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Old 01-21-2014, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Dog Bite from neighbors dog

A few months ago I had posted this message about being bitten by my neighbors dog. Not much really came from it...I never went to the doctor nor reported the incident to officials or landlord. We've remained on friendly terms with our neighbors despite their dogs continuing to lunge with hackles raised and bark relentlessly at us whenever we all happen to be outside...they are leashed, but their owners really don't seem to see the problem with this behavior nor do much to correct it. We live in WI and the temperatures have dipped very low this winter, which has caused some freezing pipes in the house we all rent. The landlord (husband/wife owned) came to the house to do some repairs and had to enter our apt to gain access to the basement. While the husband was over, he asked my boyfriend about the dogs upstairs. My boyfriend admitted our concerns and informed him of the bite. This resulted in the wife calling me a day later requesting the details of the bite and seemed upset that they were not informed. While we are a bit relieved that the incident is now known and recorded...we don't want to become enemies with our neighbors or think that we went and maliciously tattled behind their back. We also don't want to put our neighbors in the situation of being evicted or having to put the dog down...I think we'd be happy with the dog being muzzled and supervised more effectively when out of the home. We made sure to let the landlord know that we think the neighbors are good people and we really love the home. Does anyone know what the next steps are for a dog bite when no charges are being pursued by the victim?
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Were there any other incidents and you never reported it not much you can do. My dog got into it with the neighbors dog who had run and attacked him on numerous times. One time he fought back and they were asking me to muzzle my dog. If all dogs remain leashed 100% of the time, there is no need for a muzzle. But that's not from biting humans. What are the laws in your state? One bit could designate a dangerous dog in my state and require the muzzle at all times off property. If no other incidents have occurred why would they need to take other action? it seems what they have been doing has worked since the initial incident?
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
 

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There have been no other incidents of the dogs biting us but we essentially live in a rental duplex situation where we share an enterence in the winter. Obviously our landlord is not required to let us know what steps they decided to take now that they are aware their other tenents dog bit us...but now when we pass our neighbors in the shared area, they no longer return our greeting and it's apparent their opinon of us has changed. I know the landlord contacted the humane society, but I'm not sure what else has been done. Our landlord is very nice and is likely to do things by the book...would one bite to a human be enough to have the neighbors evicted or the dog taken away? Is anyone familiar with what would typically happen to a renter if their dog bit someone. As much as I'm frustrated with these dogs and really don't feel the neighbors are strong dog owners...I would really hate for them to lose their home over this...which is why I never reported anything. The only reason that we told the landlord (7 months later) is because they were directly asking us about the other tenents dogs. This is the most helpful information I happen to have found as far as the laws in our county, but it doesn't clearly state what a landlord is obligated to do: http://www.co.washington.wi.us/uploa..._ordchap14.pdf

Now that I think of it, perhaps a pitbull forum is not the best place for this question...I only posed it here since I had initially posted about the dog bite when it happened. Perhaps I will see if there are websites/forums regarding dog bit law in WI. Thanks for any insight though...I do appreciate it.
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Old 01-22-2014, 05:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
 

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It would depend on your cities laws on dog bites but 7 months later you are out of luck. A bite needs to be reported when it happens if you want a record made and the dog held. At this point you might just end up in a he said, she said kind of situation. The landlord should have been informed right off the bat, most insurance companies don't cover pit bulls and the ones that do don't generally cover dogs with a bite history. Most insurance companies would drop you if you tell them of a bite but not telling them with a back history means they could refuse to cover or drop if another bite happens. Not a good situation to be in for all involved.

FYI a dog can still bite and injure someone through a muzzle, these people should be keeping the dogs from continuing the barking/lunging behavior, getting them into a trainer or euthanizing if they are HA. Not knowing anything about the first bite I really can't say what the right answer is.
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
 

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I am not really looking for any action to be taken, I simply made the example of the muzzle as a preference to the neighbors being evicted...the neighbors were apologetic after the bite and other than being less than stellar dog owners ( I think they just have on rose colored glasses when it comes to their dogs behavior and have allowed their dogs to run the show), they have been great neighbors. I am just curious as to what action my landlord could have taken now that they've been informed of the bite that has caused our neighbors to obviously be upset with us. I'm hoping it's not something as drastic as eviction, but i'm not sure it's my place to ask about it either. Here is a link to the original post with a bit more details around the bit incident: https://www.gopitbull.com/general-dis...hbors-dog.html

I guess I'm just curious as to what the most likely repercussion would be. They've been tenents there for 3 years and we just moved in this past summer...so I don't want to be viewed as the nit pickers...but it was a pretty decent bite. Here is a picture of it 2 days after the incident...and this was through a sweatshirt.


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Old 01-23-2014, 07:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The landlord has two options, they can either warn the people to control their dogs, or demand the dogs be removed or an eviction will result. Being a landlord and allowing aggressive dogs on the property can result in them losing their homeowners insurance and even though the dogs dont belong to them, the landlord can still be held liable if the dogs were to bite another tenant or yourself. My suggestion as far as your concern over what the neighbors are thinking is to simply ask them. What did the landlord say to you to make you include the information about being bitten?

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Old 01-23-2014, 08:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If a muzzle fits properly they cant bite through it, that's the point of a muzzle. Some people don't use basket style and it has an opening, but its really poor fit and design the goal of the muzzle is to prevent bites. Some states designate dangerous dogs over one incident, but not ones that were a while ago, it has to be reported when it happened. I would go talk to your neighbors. But it seems like there has not been another issue, so I am confused about what you are trying to do if not get them dog "in trouble" or get the tenants evicted.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
 

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The conversation took place between my boyfriend and the landlord (husband)...so I don't know the exact context of the conversation. From what I understand the landlord was commenting on the barking of the dogs...as it didn't stop the whole time he was there, despite our neighbors living in the upper unit and the landlord being in our lower unit & basement. My boyfriend explained that the dogs bark regularly, more so when the neighbors are not home and it typically goes for 30-45 minutes a pop, with breaks here and there. The landlord commented on it being a nusance and I guess the conversation continued from there.
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I apologize if I'm not clear, I know I can babble. We aren't trying to "do" anything...we never intended on making an issue out of this. But because the landlord started a conversation on the upstairs dogs being a nusance, my boyfriend discussed some of the experiences we've had. We never meant for it to explode into anything...I think my boyfriend just thought he was having a dude conversation with the husband of the landlord duo. The landlord wife is the one who called me concerned and wanted all the details of the bite. When talking to her, I gave her the very basic details but also made sure to say that we resolved the matter between us and that the upstairs tenents have been great neighbors, outside of their dogs. My question in all of this is if anyone knew what action the landlord is likely to take now that they know about it...even though nothing was ever officially "reported". I hope that clarifies all my blathering.
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I guess I have a vested interest in this as well as I still continue to foster when I can. The breeds I foster are typically bully breeds or boston terriers, I'm hoping that now that the landlords are aware of a dog bite, it doesn't effect us from having dogs on our property as well.
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yeah my tolerance for barking dogs is like 10 minutes lol 2 minutes if its before noon lol and I babble too so its all good, I think I get you now lol My guess is the landlord may not offer a lease renewal, other than that he cant do much but kick them out if they don't have a lease. I would call Animal Control every time the dogs across the street barked for hours on end. After I started calling AC on them, they paid more attention to their dogs and would come out and get them instead of letting them bark to be let in for hours on end.
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I'd have shot the mutt or beat it to death with a ball bat.

I have kids, so I'll put their safety before the neighbors right to own a man biter cur.

If they don't like it they are free to move.

Landlords won't tolerate human aggressive dogs...lawsuit falls on them. You want it gone, tell the landlord.


If a bit happens again it will be your own fault for not taking action the first time.

Simple truth. Not trying to be a prick. Forget about others feelings, and neighborly love. I'm sure they wouldn't think the same towards you.
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I am not really looking for any action to be taken, I simply made the example of the muzzle as a preference to the neighbors being evicted...the neighbors were apologetic after the bite and other than being less than stellar dog owners ( I think they just have on rose colored glasses when it comes to their dogs behavior and have allowed their dogs to run the show), they have been great neighbors. I am just curious as to what action my landlord could have taken now that they've been informed of the bite that has caused our neighbors to obviously be upset with us. I'm hoping it's not something as drastic as eviction, but i'm not sure it's my place to ask about it either. Here is a link to the original post with a bit more details around the bit incident: https://www.gopitbull.com/general-dis...hbors-dog.html

I guess I'm just curious as to what the most likely repercussion would be. They've been tenents there for 3 years and we just moved in this past summer...so I don't want to be viewed as the nit pickers...but it was a pretty decent bite. Here is a picture of it 2 days after the incident...and this was through a sweatshirt.

Didn't see this one... but don't concern yourself with how they feel, or repercussions. Who gives a damn what people think of you when your own safety is at stake!
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Yep, I manage a small set of privately owned apartments, and I know first hand about the law regarding dog bites on rental property. Is why I take caution with my mutt boy. He doesn't like strangers (adults, he loves kids) and I don't doubt he'll bite if someone outside the family approaches me or a family member when we're outside.

As G said, I wouldn't worry about the neighbors' feelings either.
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