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Old 07-31-2014, 08:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Totally! I'm glad they're making the effort. At least this may make some people more inclined to go meet a shelter dog and make their own judgements.
Too bad the series of articles used the words "pit bull" so much when the articles are really about any and all shelter mutts. Kind of defeated their purpose, didn't they? All that talk about "pit bulls" and all.
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Too bad the series of articles used the words "pit bull" so much when the articles are really about any and all shelter mutts. Kind of defeated their purpose, didn't they? All that talk about "pit bulls" and all.

I don't think it defeats the purpose at all. The general public has a set idea of what a Pit Bull looks like, and while it may be skewed, Huff Post is just using the term generically as every news source does. Sure, they're totally incorrect in most instances, but at least the public may try and go adopt a bully-type dog from a shelter now. I don't see why you think it's such a terrible thing.

Sure, it's a whole lot of furmommy talk, but if that at least sparks the interest for someone to do their own research, then good. We all started our research at one time or another.
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:07 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Too bad the series of articles used the words "pit bull" so much when the articles are really about any and all shelter mutts. Kind of defeated their purpose, didn't they? All that talk about "pit bulls" and all.

What are you taking about? You're not making sense. Why would talking about shelter dogs possibly being awesome because of other good experiences defeat the purpose of convincing the public shelter dogs are awesome? Why are you trying to pretend legislators and the media and people going to the shelters who see a dog with a blocky head wont feel better hearing about other owners who are getting dogs from the media that usually vilifies them all? Are you one of those a pro breeder anti rescue nutters? As doctor Phil says it takes 1,000 "atta boys" to overcome one "you're worthless and no good". Same applies. The media owes so called pit bulls aka targeted dogs aka bully breeds aka dogs aka whatever you wanna call the breedism that occurs, a shit ton of "atta boys" and we should all be making them collect for years to come. This is a great continuation of the positive trend lately. As little as 6 years ago 9% of the country had breed discriminatory legislation and hopefully the trend will only continue because it's on the decline, Now it's around 3%. I want it at 0%.

What do you think the purpose is of the pit bull week? Why do you always make messed up comments and then refuse discuss them or make it clearer? What's your goal?

The only problem I have it the pit bull "nutters" and the psycho foamers who go from story to story to story. The nutters post on one thread that's not a pit bull it's blue or big or a bully or who knows what it is, Don't call it a pit bull and then on positive stories are all like yay for pit bulls whoooo hooooo! Lol foamers just trash talk all the time. Lol. IMO Comments are the appropriate venue for that "fight" and it looks ridiculous. My point on here is to try and educate about the difference between knowing what your dog is vs what your dog looks like. And what the HuffPost is doing is educating the dogs people might pass up because of how they appear could be worth a second look.

A HUGE majority of the dogs in shelters do not have the temperament of a well bred APBT. Which when it comes down to it are a dog just like any other dog and need to be managed as each dog dictates. There is no one answer on how a dog will behave. It all comes down to individual dogs being managed no matter what the breed is )or isn't) and not based their behavior solely on what they look like.

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Old 08-01-2014, 03:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What are you taking about? You're not making sense. Why would talking about shelter dogs possibly being awesome because of other good experiences defeat the purpose of convincing the public shelter dogs are awesome?
Because they call them "Pit bulls". There is such an outrage HERE over calling a shelter mutt ANY kind of breed, that I thought it would spill over here.

I, myself, am VERY glad they put the name "pit bull" in there so much and next to the pics. In addition to other things, to show how g-d many there ARE in shelters; to show it's probably the most popular, abused breed in the country if not the world...(I just thought there would be more said HERE about that, that's all). And I'm GLAD Roo called his dog a Pit Bull and I'm GLAD many of these hero stories show a pic of a Pit Bull and DO call the dog a Pit Bull!

I AGREE there is too much fur-mommying in the articles and the one thing I STILL don't like about these kinds of efforts is that they do increase interest and popularity in the dogs! But, that's life. We are used to it. It's one reason the pit bull problem will never go away. They just can't be left alone.
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If you don't like it HERE then please make your way out the door... You always seem to speak about the forum as if being HERE is such an awful place to learn about bull breeds. You clearly have a completely different view on the dogs in shelters and the dogs I have saying they are the same thing...which we HERE don't agree with.

I wish they would have used the correct term of "bull breed type" but unfortunately people call anything and everything with a short coat and blocky head a pitbull. I think their efforts are good, besides the term they used.
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Old 08-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well if you don't want to learn and share then keep moving. Just like Coach said she would prefer them to be called bull breed, I would prefer they be called Dogs cause I don't give a crap what type any dog is. Not everyone gets so hung up on semantics unless they are unclear or with no regard to science. HuffPost discusses over and over in a few of the articles that pit bull isn't being used in regards to a specific breed, they explain its a category or type of dog. It can NOT be denied that MANY use the term pit bull in this way. But MANY MANY people think its IS acceptable to use the breed term to describe a dog that is unknown and that is NOT correct. It doesn't mean I subscribe to that way of thinking and wont help others see how this isn't correct or scientifically accurate. People on here will correct those who use pit bull as a type and when people think they are above science and can predict breeds by appearance just off some pictures or a video. You cant seem to grasp the difference.
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Just like Coach said she would prefer them to be called bull breed, I would prefer they be called Dogs cause I don't give a crap what type any dog is.
nm/I'm afraid my comment will seem antagonistic to some. Sorry.

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People on here will correct those who use pit bull as a type and when people think they are above science and can predict breeds by appearance just off some pictures or a video. You cant seem to grasp the difference.
nm/I'm afraid my comment will seem antagonistic to some. Sorry.

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Just like Coach said she would prefer them to be called bull breed,
That's not what I said. Coach will tell you.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I don't understand. Coach called them bull breeds not you.


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THIS post bothers me. Rubs me the wrong way whatever you want to call it. Since the HuffPost has established they view the pit bull as a type having the breed requirements for the apbt make me cringe. You can say it's a type and then add the information from one breed standard. Especially if you aren't using pit bull as a breed.

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Agreed, Ames. Showing a specific "type" like that with standards just totally contradicts their earlier statements that "Pit Bull" represents many "types" of dogs.
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