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Do not ever, under any circumstances leave your snake alone with live prey. Here's my advice, which has not been heeded so far, but I will try one more time. Kill the mouse, and then bother the snake with the dead mouse. You can nudge the snake with it to piss the snake off a bit. Honestly though, you should have let the snake adjust to it's new home for a week before feeding, but since you have the mouse, you might as well try. Make sure you use tongs to move the mouse around if you kill it first, do not hold the mouse's tail with your hand, as the snake will smell mouse, but see the heat from your hand, and it could tag you, at his size it won't do much damage but an adult snake can hurt, a blood python got me right on the index finger once, went clear through my nail, and bled like a b**ch because snakes release anti-coagulants in their saliva. If you feel like the mouse got too cold after you killed it, you can warm it with a hair dryer.
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Do not ever, under any circumstances leave your snake alone with live prey. Here's my advice, which has not been heeded so far, but I will try one more time. Kill the mouse, and then bother the snake with the dead mouse. You can nudge the snake with it to piss the snake off a bit. Honestly though, you should have let the snake adjust to it's new home for a week before feeding, but since you have the mouse, you might as well try. Make sure you use tongs to move the mouse around if you kill it first, do not hold the mouse's tail with your hand, as the snake will smell mouse, but see the heat from your hand, and it could tag you, at his size it won't do much damage but an adult snake can hurt, a blood python got me right on the index finger once, went clear through my nail, and bled like a b**ch because snakes release anti-coagulants in their saliva. If you feel like the mouse got too cold after you killed it, you can warm it with a hair dryer.


hmmmmm........makes sense, im watchin the tank but i dont have it in me to kill a mouse..... u think i should just quit the feeding and wait a week CANDY? cuz the breeder i got her from said he didnt feed her in about 2 weeeks
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Old 07-14-2009, 07:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I had some BP till a few month ago. I sold them. A Pastel, a spider and a regular. Make sure that the snake has a hiding box or two. There are a cuple of factors that will influence the snake's apetite, humidity in the tank, temperature and sometimes light. Look up some sites for info. If I remember, the tank should be between 75 and and low 80s, to hot may rotten the food in the stomach before it is poped and may kill the snake. Live food is best and easier, the snake will detect the temp of the prey, depending on the temp, she will interested or not. That is why is harder to feed frozen. What ever you do, do not, I repeat, do not leve the mouse overnight, it will start bitting the snake, mice eat anything to include their own tail if to hungry. Ohh, feed depending on size and age. A baby BP feeds once evert 2 weeks and as it grows ferther time appart.

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If you can't kill it, you can gas it. Get a tupperware, and put a small bowl or cup in it, put baking soda in the bowl, put the mouse in the tupperware, pour vinegar on the baking soda, and seal tight, the CO2 will put the mouse to sleep, and it will eventually stop breathing. Rinse the mouse well, and then offer it to your snake. Make sure you rinse it because the vinegar can be harsh to the snake if the mouse gets vinegar on it. You can also use a paintball co2 tank and a hose, and just cut a hole in the lid of the tupperware for the hose. Do this outside btw so you don't gas yourself lol. Snakes can go long periods without eating, so if the snake is too nervous to eat and nothing works, you can feed it next week.
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I hope you're feeding her in a seperate cage than what she lives in. Also, make sure she's warm enough. Snakes are very lazy when they don't have enough heat. Sometimes handling it before feeding can warm it up and burn a few calories as it climbs through your hands. It'll be hungry usually afterwards. Just remember that snakes can go without eating for a long time so maybe it's just not hungry. I'd probably go to the pet store and buy some frozen mice and try that way. Just thaw them in some water and then dip it in some hot water after fully thawed so it has a little bit of warmth to it. When i had picky eating snakes, i'd dip them in chicken broth and they'd snatch it right up. How old is the snake anyway? because pet stores and breeders usually feed young snakes frozen pinkies and mice anyway so it just might be what it's used to.
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Another important question, was the breeder feeding mice or rat pups? If the breeder fed rats and you offer mice, the snake might not take it. You can train it to, but you have to make the new prey smell like the old, normally I thaw them touching each other, and rub them together. I always go rat as early as possible, but I have larger snakes. I would have to feed Peach 2 or more mice already. Rat pups are great for snakes because they have a lot of meat and weight to them, as opposed to mice that have a lot of fur and bones. Plus rats are very easy to raise on your own. Having rats can also be a fun thing for Christopher to do to help you out. You could teach him to give them food and water, and then he is participating in the whole process.
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I hope you're feeding her in a seperate cage than what she lives in. Also, make sure she's warm enough. Snakes are very lazy when they don't have enough heat. Sometimes handling it before feeding can warm it up and burn a few calories as it climbs through your hands. It'll be hungry usually afterwards. Just remember that snakes can go without eating for a long time so maybe it's just not hungry. I'd probably go to the pet store and buy some frozen mice and try that way. Just thaw them in some water and then dip it in some hot water after fully thawed so it has a little bit of warmth to it. When i had picky eating snakes, i'd dip them in chicken broth and they'd snatch it right up. How old is the snake anyway? because pet stores and breeders usually feed young snakes frozen pinkies and mice anyway so it just might be what it's used to.
im not sure exactly how old it is....its pretty young.......i was expecting this, the snake not being intrested.......thanks for the advice though, its appreciated
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Good point, feed them in a seperete place than were they sleep. She could asosiate your hand (when going to pick her up to pet or whatever the case) with that you are going to feed her and mistake your thumb with prey.
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Good point, feed them in a seperete place than were they sleep. She could asosiate your hand (when going to pick her up to pet or whatever the case) with that you are going to feed her and mistake your thumb with prey.
Thats alot of fun lol!!! i had a freind that had a big one he had to feed rabbits like the big newzealand ones...That was fun to watch!!! it was 19 feet long.
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I hope you're feeding her in a seperate cage than what she lives in. Also, make sure she's warm enough. Snakes are very lazy when they don't have enough heat. Sometimes handling it before feeding can warm it up and burn a few calories as it climbs through your hands. It'll be hungry usually afterwards. Just remember that snakes can go without eating for a long time so maybe it's just not hungry. I'd probably go to the pet store and buy some frozen mice and try that way. Just thaw them in some water and then dip it in some hot water after fully thawed so it has a little bit of warmth to it. When i had picky eating snakes, i'd dip them in chicken broth and they'd snatch it right up. How old is the snake anyway? because pet stores and breeders usually feed young snakes frozen pinkies and mice anyway so it just might be what it's used to.
The idea of using a separate enclosure is heavily debated, many breeders say it is necessary, many say it is not. The idea is that the snake knows when it goes in the new enclosure, that it's feeding time, ad won't tag you when it's in it's cage because it has never been fed there. BPs are very docile, and you have little to no chance of it tagging you. I feed Peach in a separate box, and sometimes I feed brock in a separate box, just because Boas can be more aggressive, but I have fed both in their tanks, and nothing bad has ever come of it. When I worked at the pet store, we fed most of the snakes in their tanks, and they never turned on us. I got bitten being lazy, the snake went for the hamster, but got my finger instead. i was just in a hurry and couldn't find the tongs.

BTW feeding hamsters is not normal. The blood python we had at the store was afraid of mice and rats and would not touch them, because he had been attacked. Some guy traded him in because he wouldnt eat. Hamsters can be like candy to snakes, but if you go hamster, the snake may not go back to other prey. Same with the soft-furred rats that look like large mice.
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Just to add something. i didn't read the situation fully. you ARE feeding it in its own cage? 2 reasons why that's dangerous
1. It can get the mulch/substrate in their digestive systems and some snakes are allergic to different types of mulch. Even the smell of the mulch is sometimes a factor. They can actually get all blocked up and probably can't sense the mouse.
2. the more you feed the mouse in the cage, the more it will associate feeding time along with it. So when you go to put your hand in the cage to pick it up, it might bite you thinking you're prey. that's why feeding in a completely different looking cage will take care of this confusion.

I've had a friend who took care of one of my snakes for a while because i couldn't have one while i was living in the dorms/barracks. He was afraid to take out my king snake so he started feeding her in it's cage. Well, when i got her back, she usually would just climb to the top towards me and as soon as i put my hand near her, she used to climb on... well, after my buddy fed her in her cage for so long, she striked at me. Yes, i would go to my buddy's house to handle her at least twice a week, but when i was gone on vacation, he wouldn't touch her. I loved that snake too! she was awesome but feeding her in her cage where she lived ruined her...
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The idea of using a separate enclosure is heavily debated, many breeders say it is necessary, many say it is not. The idea is that the snake knows when it goes in the new enclosure, that it's feeding time, ad won't tag you when it's in it's cage because it has never been fed there. BPs are very docile, and you have little to no chance of it tagging you. I feed Peach in a separate box, and sometimes I feed brock in a separate box, just because Boas can be more aggressive, but I have fed both in their tanks, and nothing bad has ever come of it. When I worked at the pet store, we fed most of the snakes in their tanks, and they never turned on us. I got bitten being lazy, the snake went for the hamster, but got my finger instead. i was just in a hurry and couldn't find the tongs.

BTW feeding hamsters is not normal. The blood python we had at the store was afraid of mice and rats and would not touch them, because he had been attacked. Some guy traded him in because he wouldnt eat. Hamsters can be like candy to snakes, but if you go hamster, the snake may not go back to other prey. Same with the soft-furred rats that look like large mice.
not all bp's are docile. i've been tagged by a few. its just better safe than sorry. Who wants to take a mouthful of teeth when that snake gets bigger. sure didn't like my finger being bitten, and sure as hell wouldn't like my whole hand or arm being bitten either with bigger teeth. For now you can just use like those large tuppaware to store things. it's perfect. tall enough so the mouse won't jump out and no place the mouse can hide. also no substrate or mulch that'll get caught in their mouths while they're trying to swallow. it's mostly for your own safety and the snake's safety to feed in a seperate container. But not everyone does things the same.
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