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Old 07-16-2017, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Seeking Information. Red or Blue?

I've been around and raised dogs my whole life and currently have two "pitbull" mixes(a 10yr old lab/pit mix and a 3 year old husky mix) As puppies they both had the pitbull look but the older they got the less they looked like a pitbull.

My friends (who have 2 kids of their own-a newborn baby and 2year old) have two full blood pits and in April they had a litter of 13 pups and asked if I wanted one...for free!!!
I got the lucky opportunity of getting first pick, a blue eyed male, he was the biggest of the whole litter.

Sorry for the long post but I have a few questions.....

Goose was born April 12 2017 and today weighs just over 20 lbs.

Judging by his parents(the Mom is the black one in the pics) what type of pitbull is he and how big will he get? I want him to be huge.

Is his coat blue fawn or champagne(if theres a difference)?

Lastly, is he blue or red?
I've read about the diluted genes but when I take him places(he goes everywhere w me) I get mixed responses. Everyone says he is a blue nose but my research tells me his is a red nose w the diluted gene.

TIA
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
 

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Old 08-04-2017, 12:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've been around and raised dogs my whole life and currently have two "pitbull" mixes(a 10yr old lab/pit mix and a 3 year old husky mix) As puppies they both had the pitbull look but the older they got the less they looked like a pitbull.

My friends (who have 2 kids of their own-a newborn baby and 2year old) have two full blood pits and in April they had a litter of 13 pups and asked if I wanted one...for free!!!
I got the lucky opportunity of getting first pick, a blue eyed male, he was the biggest of the whole litter.

Sorry for the long post but I have a few questions.....

Goose was born April 12 2017 and today weighs just over 20 lbs.

Judging by his parents(the Mom is the black one in the pics) what type of pitbull is he and how big will he get? I want him to be huge.

Is his coat blue fawn or champagne(if theres a difference)?

Lastly, is he blue or red?
I've read about the diluted genes but when I take him places(he goes everywhere w me) I get mixed responses. Everyone says he is a blue nose but my research tells me his is a red nose w the diluted gene.

TIA
Hey there Goosegoose! Goose sure is a cute pup. While you may have been around dogs your entire life, it seems you may be new to the bull breeds based on some of your questions.

First, there is only one kind of pit bull, the American Pit Bull Terrier. There are other bulldogs, American Bully, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, etc, but only one pit bull. If you're Gooses parents are pure, they have papers and you can research the pedigrees to determine the type of bull breed Goose is. Without papers, regardless of what anyone tells you, the dog is not pure bred and is considered a mutt (dog of mixed breeding). True pit bulls are NOT big dogs. They top out weight wise around 55-60 lbs and are considered a medium breed. So if your Goose IS a pit bull, he will not be huge. A good rule of thumb is to double their weight at 4 mos, which would mean your Goose would be around 40-45 lbs roughly since he's just about 4 mos old now. That is an average size for a pit bull.

He looks champagne to me for what it's worth.

Finally there is no such thing as a blue nose/red nose pit bull. All that does is describe a nose color, which means nothing. Blue and red are coat colors but clearly Goose is neither.

I hope that helps. Kudos to you for trying to do some research just be careful of your sources. If they start talking about nose colors as types of pit bulls or talking about "huge" pit bulls they are misleading you. Most of the dogs people consider "huge pit bulls" are American Bully dogs, not pit bulls.

Keep reading the forums and asking questions. There's people here who know their stuff with years of experience who are more than willing to answer your questions!

~Jess
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
 

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Thank you Jess!

Gooses grandfather (his dads side) had papers but I didn't get any papers with Goose. Is there a way I can get his papers or no? It doesn't matter to me either way bc I'm absolutely in love w him and am completely fine with him being a "mutt."

He will be 4 months in 7 days and right now he weighs 31 pounds so weight wise we are good . He also lost his first tooth sometime between last night and this morning and has another one about to come out (his top 2 front teeth) so my little buddy is ab to be a snaggle tooth

Thanks again for all your help.

I added a pic of him when he was 8 weeks that really shows his blue beautiful eyes
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Unfortunately probably not. You can try to go through the breeder who got Goose from and see if they have papers for mom and dad. If mom and dad are both papered, you can get papers from whatever club mom/dad are registered with through the breeder but if there's anything missing paper-wise in his lineage than unfortunately you're stuck loving your "mutt" so to speak!

He really is gorgeous. Champagne is one of my favorite coat colors and those blue eyes as a pup make Goose very striking! My pack has consisted of patriotic colors, Diesel my blue baby (RIP Bub), Ciara my big white girl, and Kaos & Nala my red babies.

I also wanted to mention a huge kudos to you for being so open to learning! Some people have preconceived notions about bulldogs and their dogs in particular and aren't as open to some of the facts. There's definitely some silliness that goes on with people insisting they have 'rare blue nose dogs' and such. So much is a gimmick for BYB to make their dogs seem "special" or "rare" to get people to spend too much money on poorly bred dogs. It's sad but a harsh reality. So thank you for being so open to loving your mutt and being so receptive to uncovering the myths vs reality!

And keep those pics of Goose coming as he grows! We all love pics and watching our pups grow into dogs.

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