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Old 08-10-2017, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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I recently came across this forum and thought I would seek some advice. Let me start by saying that I do not currently have a pitbull (my boyfriend has a pitbull that is almost 4 years old). I have an 8 month old border collie and a 7 year old border collie mix along with 2 cats. They both have completed obedience and listen fairly well. Neither are destructive and have not chewed up anything in my house (knock on wood, I probably just jinxed it lol). I apologize for the long post in advance but I'm trying to find some sort of compromise to make this work with his dog.

My boyfriend moved into my house and kept his pitbull crated while he was at work. His dog was used to his as it was his pattern before moving in. Unfortunately, the dog is not housebroke and is extremely destructive (he would leave him out in his room but would move everything off of the floor, dresser, etc so that he could not chew it). His dog became an issue quickly because I was not able to handle him to even take him out to the bathroom. I've tried to take him out on a leash and he has dragged me down the steps and through the yard. I've also tried to use the commands like he suggested and am not able to get him to listen. The dog also began peeing on my clothes and belongings when he was out of the crate and not on a leash. The dog also would bark and head butt the door on his crate constantly. I was unable to even use my living room because the barking would escalate to growling at me occasionally.

At this point, I suggested that possibly we put some sort of outdoor kennel for his dog to go in during the day. I already have a privacy fence so we could find something fairly large to go within that for him. This would give him room to move about without being in a smaller crate for approximately 12 hours while he is working. It would also prevent me having to deal with him barking for the 3-4 hours I am home and he isn't. I don't say that in a fashion where I'm not willing to work with the dog, however, I'm not comfortable working with him since I physically cannot control him and he's been slightly aggressive with me before. My boyfriend immediately shut down this idea saying it's essentially better for him to remain in his small crate in the house all day until he gets home.

I also want to add that I had suggested he work with me and the dog to see if I can get some control over him and that he should have obedience/training/something to correct these behaviors. The dog does listen to him somewhat though so he just says that he doesnt think I can handle him and that he isn't going to listen to me.

I dont want to force him to choose to rehome him which ultimately would be best for the dog or to move out. He doesn't have the time to have a high activity breed such as this but that isnt my decision to make. I'm just looking for some opinions or suggestions on what can be done or how to have a discussion regarding the kennel subject or any other alternative. If anyone has any suggestions to even an outdoor type of kennel maybe I could show him that and try to reason with him.
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Old 08-10-2017, 06:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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A 4 year old dog that's not house broke yet! How is that even possible...........if you don't have time for a dog like a pitbull that requires ALOT why even have the dog ?
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Old 08-10-2017, 06:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I recently came across this forum and thought I would seek some advice. Let me start by saying that I do not currently have a pitbull (my boyfriend has a pitbull that is almost 4 years old). I have an 8 month old border collie and a 7 year old border collie mix along with 2 cats. They both have completed obedience and listen fairly well. Neither are destructive and have not chewed up anything in my house (knock on wood, I probably just jinxed it lol). I apologize for the long post in advance but I'm trying to find some sort of compromise to make this work with his dog.

My boyfriend moved into my house and kept his pitbull crated while he was at work. His dog was used to his as it was his pattern before moving in. Unfortunately, the dog is not housebroke and is extremely destructive (he would leave him out in his room but would move everything off of the floor, dresser, etc so that he could not chew it). His dog became an issue quickly because I was not able to handle him to even take him out to the bathroom. I've tried to take him out on a leash and he has dragged me down the steps and through the yard. I've also tried to use the commands like he suggested and am not able to get him to listen. The dog also began peeing on my clothes and belongings when he was out of the crate and not on a leash. The dog also would bark and head butt the door on his crate constantly. I was unable to even use my living room because the barking would escalate to growling at me occasionally.

At this point, I suggested that possibly we put some sort of outdoor kennel for his dog to go in during the day. I already have a privacy fence so we could find something fairly large to go within that for him. This would give him room to move about without being in a smaller crate for approximately 12 hours while he is working. It would also prevent me having to deal with him barking for the 3-4 hours I am home and he isn't. I don't say that in a fashion where I'm not willing to work with the dog, however, I'm not comfortable working with him since I physically cannot control him and he's been slightly aggressive with me before. My boyfriend immediately shut down this idea saying it's essentially better for him to remain in his small crate in the house all day until he gets home.

I also want to add that I had suggested he work with me and the dog to see if I can get some control over him and that he should have obedience/training/something to correct these behaviors. The dog does listen to him somewhat though so he just says that he doesnt think I can handle him and that he isn't going to listen to me.

I dont want to force him to choose to rehome him which ultimately would be best for the dog or to move out. He doesn't have the time to have a high activity breed such as this but that isnt my decision to make. I'm just looking for some opinions or suggestions on what can be done or how to have a discussion regarding the kennel subject or any other alternative. If anyone has any suggestions to even an outdoor type of kennel maybe I could show him that and try to reason with him.
I'm going to be real honest here. Your boyfriend has no business owning a dog. There is absolutely NO excuse for a 4 year old dog, of any breed, to not be housebroken. NONE. The dog is not getting nearly the exercise he requires, is absolutely the pack leader, and there is no reason for any of this. The poor dog is the one suffering and I strongly suggest your boyfriend rehome the dog to someone with bull breed experience that can teach the dog and spend the proper amount of time with the dog.

This is a BAD situation for you, your dog, and all involved. I know this is a horrible thing to say but if you don't put your foot down now, this is going to go down hill real fast.
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Old 08-10-2017, 06:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
 

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I completely agree he should have never bought this breed of dog to begin with. I've had bigger dogs previously and in no way have any issues with the dog being a pitbull. It would be unacceptable behavior regardless of the breed. Unfortunately, he bought him prior to me being in the picture and never owned a dog previously. It's beyond frustrating to see the behavior of his dog being as it is when it could be so different with the proper training/time. My border collie is a high activity dog as well but is able to be in the house without destructive behaviors. We've done training though and I can handle him. I would have no issue including his dog in activities with mine but I do not have enough control and feel like that's just a recipe for a disaster/fight (and my dogs will end up on the losing end). When I did training with my bc puppy, the trainer suggested that my boyfriend rehome him and he actually knew the perfect people that would've been interested. He shut that idea down though quickly.

The whole situation is just awful for the dog and frustrating for me.

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A 4 year old dog that's not house broke yet! How is that even possible...........if you don't have time for a dog like a pitbull that requires ALOT why even have the dog ?
this is not helpful. she's here for advice, not to be criticized. let's try to be constructive.
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A 4 year old dog that's not house broke yet! How is that even possible...........if you don't have time for a dog like a pitbull that requires ALOT why even have the dog ?
I'm pretty sure you are criticizing me for a dog that isn't mine? I'm here trying to find help and some ideas from owners with experience instead of letting this poor dog continue to have issues. Geez.
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I completely agree he should have never bought this breed of dog to begin with. I've had bigger dogs previously and in no way have any issues with the dog being a pitbull. It would be unacceptable behavior regardless of the breed. Unfortunately, he bought him prior to me being in the picture and never owned a dog previously. It's beyond frustrating to see the behavior of his dog being as it is when it could be so different with the proper training/time. My border collie is a high activity dog as well but is able to be in the house without destructive behaviors. We've done training though and I can handle him. I would have no issue including his dog in activities with mine but I do not have enough control and feel like that's just a recipe for a disaster/fight (and my dogs will end up on the losing end). When I did training with my bc puppy, the trainer suggested that my boyfriend rehome him and he actually knew the perfect people that would've been interested. He shut that idea down though quickly.

The whole situation is just awful for the dog and frustrating for me.
That's a real shame and I feel for you. Unfortunately, I really think this is going to go from bad to worse and that if he's not willing to rehome the dog, it's best for your and your collies safety to have him move back out. I hate to even say that but the poor dog isn't getting anything he needs exercise/training wise and I'm afraid someone is going to get hurt and no one wants to see that happen.

I know that's not much help OR consolation
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Welcome to the forum esant!
You have yourself a tough situation and IMO the best solution has already been offered,
by you. An outdoor run would alleviate many problems and give the dog some room. It is not fair to keep an energetic dog like this in a small crate for 12 hours at a time. It would be better for the dog to be re-homed to someone who has time for the dog. Exercise and more exercise, (mental and physical) is what the dog needs. If the owner cannot give it then it is the wrong breed for the owner or better off with no dog.

My concern here is that you could get injured in trying to take care of the dog. It doesn't sound safe for you and you are understandably uncomfortable. Bottom line, these bully breed dogs are not for everyone and there is nothing wrong with making the mistake of getting one without doing the research first. Your boyfriend needs to re-evaluate his and YOUR situation and do what is best for the dog and you. He needs either to spend some time learning how to train the dog or hire some help. He needs to exercise the dog several times a day to burn energy. He needs to address the dog not being house broken.

I have no idea what your relationship is like with your boyfriend but hopefully you can sit down and discuss these problems with him and he will see, understand your concern and do something about it. If not, then it is up to you to do something to keep you out of harms way. Best of luck in this ugly situation and you can always come back here and vent. Hope to hear some positive news.

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I just got my pitty and learned almost immediately how much attention they need! My dog needs constant exercise......if I miss a day without walks she gets frustrated and acts up, she tests me by picking up shoes, getting nippy, and all sorts of stuff. I found the training went a lot smoother with two walks a day one in the am before work 4:00am and one after work 7:00pm and that's barely enough. I work 12 + hrs a day welding in a tough environment and I still have to put my dog ahead of myself, NO excuses pitts are serious work and I knew that going into it. He needs to change or the dog has to go before something happens...it's situations like this that could potentially turn tragic and play into the reasons for Pitt bans! Trapped all day everyday no room to burn energy, frustration builds and you end up in a dangerous situation after a meltdown / temper tantrum

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