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Old 10-16-2009, 11:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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I wish I could say that the ears don't matter, but they do. The natural-eared dog (in UKC anyway) is going to have more working against them.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Like I said there are judges that are getting away from it and it is a personal preference, if you think for a second that all judges judge with out their personal feelings coming into play you are going to be sadly disappointed. There are also judges that prefer one color over another and some judges that simply won't place a dog of a certain color at all (and will make up an excuse not to do it that has nothing to do with color). Some prefer a taller leggier dog and some like a heavier less refined dog, all can be within standard. There is a certain amount of politics involved in any show ring, but what everyone needs to remember is that the one judges opinion is just one persons opinion and if you love and care for your dogs that is all that really matters.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Cropped ears or not if it is a better bulldog it should place.
I completely agree but I am sure you know as well as anyone else (since you show frequently) that there are judges out there that don't care for certain traits and will over look one with something they find undesirable.
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:06 AM   #19 (permalink)
 
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Like I said there are judges that are getting away from it and it is a personal preference, if you think for a second that all judges judge with out their personal feelings coming into play you are going to be sadly disappointed. There are also judges that prefer one color over another and some judges that simply won't place a dog of a certain color at all (and will make up an excuse not to do it that has nothing to do with color). Some prefer a taller leggier dog and some like a heavier less refined dog, all can be within standard. There is a certain amount of politics involved in any show ring, but what everyone needs to remember is that the one judges opinion is just one persons opinion and if you love and care for your dogs that is all that really matters.
Those are the judges they are trying to get rid of. They already got rid of a few judges for that.
but you are right about being bias, that is not going unnoticed in the ADBA.
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Thanks guys. I am on getting his ears done. His left ear is starting to look "funny". Judy recommended it I wanted to get a few opinions.
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Thanks guys. I am on getting his ears done. His left ear is starting to look "funny". Judy recommended it I wanted to get a few opinions.
How old is the puppy? The ears will change as the puppy grow. Helena started out with flat ears, which changed to one flat ear and one rose ear and then they got funky for awhile wanting to stand in weird directions. And I was worried! lol Because her mama had one ear that stood straight up and one that was rose. Well around 7 months Helena's ears finally went to a beautiful rose. Which I would consider ideal pit bull ears. She is very personable with them. Sometimes she'll raise one straight up. And it gives us a good laugh.

But the choice alone is yours. And I hope either you make your dog will look great.


As far as showing. I don't think it's fair to not place natural ear dogs over cropped ears. Pit Bulls are a pro choice ear crop breed.
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"As far as showing. I don't think it's fair to not place natural ear dogs over cropped ears. Pit Bulls are a pro choice ear crop breed.[/QUOTE]



well put.
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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in the link to the visual comparisons to the AKC, UKC and ADBA, it seemed like the only one that placed natural ears at all was the ADBA. I agree with Lisa, I think the cropped ears give the dog a more clean and chiseled look... I think my girls look cute and goofy with their ears.

Personally, I think I will crop my next pup's ears. ONLY, however, if I can find a reputable vet to crop them.
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:32 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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I like cropped and not cropped on my dogs. I make my decisions based on color of dog and head shape to decide. My JD would not be so cute if I had cropped his ears, that is what gives him his personality. JD is a UKC GR CH with natural ears, showing dogs is an art and takes years of experience learning how to show off your dogs best qualities. All dogs have faults non are perfect.

If Judges in any of the registries are judging dogs by ears alone or personal preferences and not by breed standard, they should be called out on it and a complaint filed at time of show.





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