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Old 10-16-2009, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Does ear cropping effect results in ring

I'm new to confirmation would would like your opinions on whether the cropping of ears is a plus or minis. Thank you.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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In ADBA I know it doesn't matter if its cropped or not.
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What about Amstaffs in AKC?
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all the ones i have seen win are cropped
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Now really it should not matter about the ears but historically it is harder to finish a ch with natural ears than with cropped. That tends to be true in UKC and AKC, ADBA it does not really matter I see both being put up.

I feel it makes the head have a cleaner more refined look. I hate to see a great looking dog with big floppy crazy ears. Some ppl like the expression the ears give but I like a cleaner look and many judges tend to like cropped ears too.
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Honestly alot of the ADBA judges are getting away from the cropping completely, I know 4 judges personally that won't place a cropped dog at all.
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Honestly alot of the ADBA judges are getting away from the cropping completely, I know 4 judges personally that won't place a cropped dog at all.

How come, I thought judges were supposed to evaluate the dogs looks what does cropping have to do with that.
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I would think it could show if the dog has flopy ears or if it has full prick both are faults.
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Old 10-16-2009, 10:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I would think it could show if the dog has flopy ears or if it has full prick both are faults.


i thought about that too... its hard to tell with the cropped ear
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Honestly alot of the ADBA judges are getting away from the cropping completely, I know 4 judges personally that won't place a cropped dog at all.
I just talked with a friend that is an ADBA judge and they said that is not true. And if the judges you are talking about are not placing dogs because of cropped ears then I do not want them judging at any shows I go to. That is not the ADBA philosophy and those judges if you are correct, are not doing their job. What judges? I am sure Hank and the show dept would not be happy to hear that.

Cropped ears or not if it is a better bulldog it should place.
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I would think it could show if the dog has flopy ears or if it has full prick both are faults.
A dog could show no matter what the ears look like but it is a known fact in the AKC and UKC you will have a harder time
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I think an uncropped dog would have harder time showing and finishing with AKC or UKC. Especially with flat, doggy ears. I think with ADBA, the judges actually prefer a natural eared dog, and would put it up over a cropped one. They seem to like the character it adds. That is what I have noticed, although I have not shown much in the last few years.
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A dog could show no matter what the ears look like but it is a known fact in the AKC and UKC you will have a harder time
I ment show as in make visable sorry i can see were you would get the confusion.
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Well, just to dumb it down, crop isn't supposed to effect a show out come. Will you find judges with preferences? Yes. Will they all feel the same? No.
ABKC is a whole other story though.
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