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Old 11-11-2018, 12:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
 

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I thought Bert's dogs were known for their black and tan color. I think that tri color is a color in the APBT, it's just so rare it's not accepted, like a white German Shepherd out black and white German Shorthaired Pointer
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Well Iíve been corrected. Apparently the Tatonka dogs are known for the black with tan points started by Joanie after her split from Bert (that part I had right LOL). I was also backwards. The foundation of the Sorrells started with Carver dogs not the other way around. So the Tatonka dog in question is legit as are all their dogs. Iíve just never seen a blk and tan Sorrell dog before. Learn something new every day!

As far as the blue dogs the dogs posted above are all old AmStaffs not APBTs. Thereís talk that Boudreaux and Eli can throw blue dogs but none of my sources have ever seen them. There was a Mexican Eli game bred blue dog but thatís the only one that anyone Iíve talked to has ever known of that was legit historically.


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Old 11-17-2018, 02:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Well Iíve been corrected. Apparently the Tatonka dogs are known for the black with tan points started by Joanie after her split from Bert (that part I had right LOL). I was also backwards. The foundation of the Sorrells started with Carver dogs not the other way around. So the Tatonka dog in question is legit as are all their dogs. Iíve just never seen a blk and tan Sorrell dog before. Learn something new every day!

As far as the blue dogs the dogs posted above are all old AmStaffs not APBTs. Thereís talk that Boudreaux and Eli can throw blue dogs but none of my sources have ever seen them. There was a Mexican Eli game bred blue dog but thatís the only one that anyone Iíve talked to has ever known of that was legit historically.


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I am still learning (always) and it use to make me angry when someone called a 'blue' pit a 'pit bull', but I've decided to do more research and step outside the box.
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"....all most all blue dogs do trace back to Ruffian Lines..... but Ruffian and all of the original dogs used to create the line are line bred on Tudor dogs... specifically GrCh Tudorís Black Jack (16xW), Black Jack II, Tudors Texas Tess etc... So... everything goes back too Pit bull lines." "Tudorís King out of Black Jack II.... if you look back behind Tudorís Black Jack you will find a grand Sire Named Blue Mike..... it would be interesting to see a picture of that dog... if anyone can find one."
"Anywhere you have black and dilute you can have blue and both exist UKC/ADBA."


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Idk what kind of pitbull i have need help identifying
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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Idk what kind of pitbull i have need help identifying
Please see the thread you started. I have responded there.

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Old 01-04-2019, 09:01 PM   #20 (permalink)
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As real as they get...

A 1xw tri colored son off Scooters CH Emmitt R.O.M.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=467166

My foundation to my yard originally was a double bred grand daughter off Gr Ch Sparky. Her Bellymate brother was owned by Carolina Kennels if I remember correctly. He was a straight up Black and Tan. No white markings to make him a tri.

Merle, well, never seen or heard of one personally. Genetically, it would be a cull.

Blue is just a dilution of black. If you have 2 dogs that have the (d) locus recessive gene and you breed them together it will become (dd) dominate and you'd get blue.

While very extremely rare, there have been a couple, as real as they get, APBTs that were that color. Most notably would be Bellons Clubs Gr. Ch. Soga

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=231848

Now a days I would agree with the OP. Although it is possible. I would have to see one to believe it. And I don't mean a picture.. I would say 99.999% of people who have a dog that color do not have a legit APBT, they have some mixing in their pedigrees somewhere..
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Bert Sorrells dogs and his ex wife Joanie whom today is known as Tatonka Kennels produces both Black and Tans and Tri color dogs on the regular.... Real American Pitbull Terriers.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Thanks AGK. Nice to see you round these parts. I learned the error of my ways from my earlier posts and corrected myself. Always love when you pop in and share your knowledge!!


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Confused, please assist...

Often, when I post pics of my guy Kane, online, people comment that he is an attractive dog (Obvi - Just look at that face!). Yet, many times, in addition to the compliment, the poster mentions, "Red Nose pits are my fave"...Or, "Oh what a gorgeous, Red Nose you have."

Thing is, he's NOT a Red Nose...Is he?

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Old 03-08-2019, 08:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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From those pics he looks blue fawn to me.
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From those pics he looks blue fawn to me.
My thoughts - EXACTLY! Definitely not red nose. I do see a lot of red nose dogs with similar coat color to Kane. That might be what other people are thinking, as well, when they see him. Ya think?

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Red nose or Blue nose only describe the color of the dogs nose. It is not the breed. These descriptions are usually used by back yard breeders in attempts to make the dog sound rare or exotic to up the price they are charging for mixed breed mutts.

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