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Old 10-21-2018, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Everything isn't a Pit Bull. You can Train any dog to do what you want it to do. Every Breed have Goal in life. Real Pit Bull Animal Aggressive and Not Human Aggressive. Real Pit Bull isn't Blue, Gray, Merle, Tri-Color. Real Pit Bull has Bruce Lee Body/Narrow Head. ( If this post isn't allowed please take it off. )





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Old 10-21-2018, 07:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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My pitbull morning walk. Shes at 41 pounds and 6 months old now. I understand what you're sayin though. I think they see anything of the mastiff family and they say pitbull.

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Old 10-21-2018, 07:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Everything isn't a Pit Bull. You can Train any dog to do what you want it to do. Every Breed have Goal in life. Real Pit Bull Animal Aggressive and Not Human Aggressive. Real Pit Bull isn't Blue, Gray, Merle, Tri-Color. Real Pit Bull has Bruce Lee Body/Narrow Head. ( If this post isn't allowed please take it off. )
The post is allowed but you're preaching to the choir here. The second picture has been used here countless time.

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Old 11-05-2018, 11:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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BLUE

Any dog can be blue, however, it 'can be' a fault in conformation. There were a few 'blue' gamebred dogs back in the day.

Because of the big bully movement where most dogs are 'blue'.. the myth of "Pit bulls aren't blue" started.

I think there was a blue or dark gray gamebred dog that won ADBA. I am trying to remember the name of the owner who is a female.

This is from ADBA:
back when head is in a normal upright position.

C. Presentation

1. Dog is socialized, showing interest in things around him.

2. Although some degree of dog/animal aggressiveness is characteristic of the breed, unruly behavior will detract from the judges ability to accurately judge an individual dog’s conformation.

D. Health

1. The vitality of the dog’s spirit, the gloss of the dogs coat and the sharpness of the dog’s eye, will exude the healthfulness of the individual animal.

2. Colors or color patterns known to be genetically linked to health problems will be considered a serious fault. Major faults: merle color pattern, albinism (white dog with blue or pink eyes, pink nose, lips, no pigment present on pads, rims of eyes etc.)
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I am not disagreeing, just sharing some factual info for others.
I 100 % agree that "Everything is not a pit bull!"
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Any dog can be blue, however, it 'can be' a fault in conformation. There were a few 'blue' gamebred dogs back in the day.

Because of the big bully movement where most dogs are 'blue'.. the myth of "Pit bulls aren't blue" started.

I think there was a blue or dark gray gamebred dog that won ADBA. I am trying to remember the name of the owner who is a female.

This is from ADBA:
back when head is in a normal upright position.

C. Presentation

1. Dog is socialized, showing interest in things around him.

2. Although some degree of dog/animal aggressiveness is characteristic of the breed, unruly behavior will detract from the judges ability to accurately judge an individual dogís conformation.

D. Health

1. The vitality of the dogís spirit, the gloss of the dogs coat and the sharpness of the dogís eye, will exude the healthfulness of the individual animal.

2. Colors or color patterns known to be genetically linked to health problems will be considered a serious fault. Major faults: merle color pattern, albinism (white dog with blue or pink eyes, pink nose, lips, no pigment present on pads, rims of eyes etc.)
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I 100 % agree that "Everything is not a pit bull!"

I challenge you to name one blue game dog from history. pre 1978
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I second Macís challenge. On top of that, itís somewhat frowned upon in ADBA if the dog doesnít show some level of DA. Have you ever been to an ABDA show? Seen any blue dogs there


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Old 11-08-2018, 10:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Not agreeing or disagreeing, just sharing history

Williams Toots born 1940 Blue Brindle
Top-O-Mich Blue Badger born 1945 Blue and White
Pat Murphy of HQ born 1942 Blue and White
Sunny Sue born 1937 Blue Brindle.
Neal's Lady Love II born 1937 Blue Brindle
Mona Lisa born 1929 Blue Brindle
Blue Chip born 1937 Blue Brindle

I am posting from research that I had to educate myself on too. Trust me, I am stubborn and sometimes I have to step-out-of-the-box and have an open mind.

As soon as I figure out how to post pictures, I will post 2 old pics that I did find.
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As soon as I figure out how to post pictures, I will post 2 old pics that I did find.
First, the picture will have to be hosted online. some of us use Imgur.com or some other free picture hosting site. Go to the site where the picture is hosted (Imgur, Google etc.) and open the picture. Now, mouse over the URL address, right click and select copy from the drop down box.
Next, come back to this forum and open a response box or start a new thread. Place the cursor where you want the picture to display and click on the "Insert Image" icon from the top of the response box (it's the yellow one).
This will open a box that will ask you to enter the URL of your picture. Backspace off the http:// and right click in the address line. Then select paste and the pictures URL will be in the line. Click "OK" and the picture will show in your message after you submit reply.
It may sound difficult but after a few times it will become very fast.

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Thanks Joe, I will give it a try in a few days. Getting on the road now.
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Any of those dogs have a title? And were they all in the US?
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Everything isn't a Pit Bull. You can Train any dog to do what you want it to do. Every Breed have Goal in life. Real Pit Bull Animal Aggressive and Not Human Aggressive. Real Pit Bull isn't Blue, Gray, Merle, Tri-Color. Real Pit Bull has Bruce Lee Body/Narrow Head. ( If this post isn't allowed please take it off. )





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Idk. Tatonka is a big name but Iíve never seen a black Sorrell dog and they claim all their dogs come from pure Sorrell blood - (that in itself isnít true because The Tatonka bloodline came from a Sorrell x Carver cross) by Joanie Sorrell herself
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Idk. Tatonka is a big name but Iíve never seen a black Sorrell dog and they claim all their dogs come from pure Sorrell blood - (that in itself isnít true because The Tatonka bloodline came from a Sorrell x Carver cross) by Joanie Sorrell herself
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Any things possible. Itís not unheard of to have hung papers out there. Just saying that tri doesnít look Sorrells to me


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Well Iíve been corrected. Apparently the Tatonka dogs are known for the black with tan points started by Joanie after her split from Bert (that part I had right LOL). I was also backwards. The foundation of the Sorrells started with Carver dogs not the other way around. So the Tatonka dog in question is legit as are all their dogs. Iíve just never seen a blk and tan Sorrell dog before. Learn something new every day!

As far as the blue dogs the dogs posted above are all old AmStaffs not APBTs. Thereís talk that Boudreaux and Eli can throw blue dogs but none of my sources have ever seen them. There was a Mexican Eli game bred blue dog but thatís the only one that anyone Iíve talked to has ever known of that was legit historically.


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