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Old 05-24-2010, 03:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Help, after neighbor's dog attacked.

Hey all,

Just like the title says, my bully a few months ago got attacked by a taller APBT that got out through the neighbor's fence. It wasn't too bad of an attack, my dog was able to defend himself and prevent the attacking dog from biting and grabbing onto his neck. It lasted maybe a couple of minutes, enough time for my neighbor to come out and leash him up. Anyway, my bully is around 2.5 yrs old, he's not so tall, he's stocky but short. Ever since the attack he's been growling and aggressive toward dogs taller and bigger than him. Smaller dogs he's cautious at first when meeting them, but later on he's a big baby and eventually is happy to meet them.

Is there anything we can do to have him calm down a little bit with other dogs? He used to love being around any dog, he was able to go to dog parks and play. I'm not looking for a cure-all, as I'm aware that this may stick with him forever. But it would be nice if my wife can take him to the vet without him being so aggressive. Any suggestions, or ideas would be great.

Thanks, guys.

Here's a pic of him, he's the brindle one on the left with the tiny white streak above his nose.
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Old 05-24-2010, 02:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Well first off bullies or APBT's have no business in a dog park so I oe you stop that right away. Also NEVER let your dog meet strange dogs you are putting your self at a liability even if you owned a poodle. Your dog does not have to be friends with every other dog and DA is a part of both breeds however you should be able to walk your and he should not react to other dogs.

I see this a lot when dogs get attacked they will become a little fear aggressive or defensive around other dogs. It should fade away in time but you also need to work on it. I would correct any aggression towards other dogs and do not push the issues to meet other dogs. What happens if you let him meet another dog and that dog growls at him? you are reinforcing the fact that other dogs are aggressive and she should be on alert. Do you walk him on a correction collar like a prong collar? if so that is a great tool to be able to correct him for showing aggression. If he growls pop up on the leash hard enough to stop the behavior and tell him NO. When he stops and relaxes quietly praise him.
This should be enough to stop this from going any further.

I really hope the owner fixed his fence if not I would call animal control to take care of the problem. This breed has irresponsible owners all over and they should be held accountable for their dogs actions when they do not take proper containment steps.
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KNGSTN, Lisa has provided some excellent advice, so please take heed to it. Dog parks are just an invitation for trouble! I don't really have any advice on curbing DA since I don't really have any experience in this area with the breed, but Lisa and many others will provide excellent advice for you and I do hope you take it in and follow it. Best of luck to you and please keep us posted.
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Hey all,

Just like the title says, my bully a few months ago got attacked by a taller APBT that got out through the neighbor's fence. It wasn't too bad of an attack, my dog was able to defend himself and prevent the attacking dog from biting and grabbing onto his neck. It lasted maybe a couple of minutes, enough time for my neighbor to come out and leash him up. Anyway, my bully is around 2.5 yrs old, he's not so tall, he's stocky but short. Ever since the attack he's been growling and aggressive toward dogs taller and bigger than him. Smaller dogs he's cautious at first when meeting them, but later on he's a big baby and eventually is happy to meet them.

Is there anything we can do to have him calm down a little bit with other dogs? He used to love being around any dog, he was able to go to dog parks and play. I'm not looking for a cure-all, as I'm aware that this may stick with him forever. But it would be nice if my wife can take him to the vet without him being so aggressive. Any suggestions, or ideas would be great.

Thanks, guys.

Here's a pic of him, he's the brindle one on the left with the tiny white streak above his nose.
I don't believe it was at a park according to threadů.. but you have been given great advice that should help for now. Give it some time but it worsen I would tell you to seek professional help.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't believe it was at a park according to thread….. but you have been given great advice that should help for now. Give it some time but it worsen I would tell you to seek professional help.
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He used to love being around any dog, he was able to go to dog parks and play.
He did reference taking his dog to a dog park, I misread this part at first, as well.
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Well first off bullies or APBT's have no business in a dog park so I hope you stop that right away. Also NEVER let your dog meet strange dogs you are putting your self at a liability even if you owned a poodle. Your dog does not have to be friends with every other dog and DA is a part of both breeds however you should be able to walk your and he should not react to other dogs.


Also, maybe you should invest in a break stick, muzzle and a short lead... ?
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He did reference taking his dog to a dog park, I misread this part at first, as well.
lol... ok dumb me, miss read.. got you
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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hey guys, thank for the advice. yes i did reference the dog park but the attack did not occur there. we used to take him there when he was younger, he was leashed all the time he was there. but thats no excuse for bringing him there in the first place. anyway, lisa thanks for your comments, you hit the nail on the head, we just want to be able to walk him without him growling at every dog. he walks with a pinch collar and the leash shortened, we move him out the way of any dogs that might get him growling. i dont mind him not liking every dog, just would like for him to be able to pass a dog walking without any issues. thanks again guys!!
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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fyi lisa, our neighbor did fix the fence. she and her dog are actually banned from walking in or around our apartment complex, her dog apparantly attacked another dog at our complex a year prior to my incident.
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wow thats not good an owner with D/A pit and yet she let em out unsupervised.... this peorsn should even own a beagle.....
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hey guys, thank for the advice. yes i did reference the dog park but the attack did not occur there. we used to take him there when he was younger, he was leashed all the time he was there. but thats no excuse for bringing him there in the first place. anyway, lisa thanks for your comments, you hit the nail on the head, we just want to be able to walk him without him growling at every dog. he walks with a pinch collar and the leash shortened, we move him out the way of any dogs that might get him growling. i dont mind him not liking every dog, just would like for him to be able to pass a dog walking without any issues. thanks again guys!!
The biggest mistake you can make is to avoid the problem! Go find the dogs that will make him growl and correct his little butt. I would even go find a fence with barking dogs and make him sit and ignore them (As long as the dogs cannot get out! lol) The mistake many ppl make is not confronting the problem and you will see them try and hide the dog behind them or walk the other way when they think there will be an issue. No you go and have your dog make a choice. You want to bark that dog, fine but you will get a big correction and you will not like it. Or you can choose to ignore that dog and no correction. It is really simple and after a few sessions your dog should do much better.
Few things you need for success....
proper equipment, if you have a prong collar great! but is need to fit correctly and be the proper size. Many ppl do not have the correct fit on a prong collar and they do not work like they should. Or they have the extra large prongs and they do not work. You should have a med or small prong not the large.

Read this on how to fit a prong collar and I also suggest putting on a slip chain as a back up collar like it says in the article the slip chain can be bigger than the one pictured. It is just in case the prong lets go and believe me that does happen from time to time.
http://leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm

Next I recommend using the live ring not the dead ring for the training you will be doing with aggression again refer to the article I posted.

Next you have to make sure your correction is hard enough that your dog responds, if he ignores you and keeps going after the dog your correction is not strong enough. They are strong dogs you will not break him I promise Once you figure out a good correction level and proper fitting equipment you should be good to go.
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Well first off bullies or APBT's have no business in a dog park so I oe you stop that right away. Also NEVER let your dog meet strange dogs you are putting your self at a liability even if you owned a poodle. Your dog does not have to be friends with every other dog and DA is a part of both breeds however you should be able to walk your and he should not react to other dogs.

I see this a lot when dogs get attacked they will become a little fear aggressive or defensive around other dogs. It should fade away in time but you also need to work on it. I would correct any aggression towards other dogs and do not push the issues to meet other dogs. What happens if you let him meet another dog and that dog growls at him? you are reinforcing the fact that other dogs are aggressive and she should be on alert. Do you walk him on a correction collar like a prong collar? if so that is a great tool to be able to correct him for showing aggression. If he growls pop up on the leash hard enough to stop the behavior and tell him NO. When he stops and relaxes quietly praise him.
This should be enough to stop this from going any further.

I really hope the owner fixed his fence if not I would call animal control to take care of the problem. This breed has irresponsible owners all over and they should be held accountable for their dogs actions when they do not take proper containment steps.
and check yourself; while handling they feel your tension your anxiety your fear your anger etc. Gotta be calm sure and without irrational behavior from within yourself.
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Awesome!! thanks guys...we'll try it out
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