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Old 07-10-2010, 05:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just curious here, so bear with me. What time of the year, if any, is it better for a female to be pregnant? I mean does environment play any part in how the pups are fed inside and outside of the womb? Can the genes/DNA be altered when under the stressful conditions of winter or summer, etc.? Also, can a male's sperm be of less quality say when he is 10 years old as opposed to being 2 years old? Can the rigors of life and the normal breakdown of the body as it gets older affect the sperm quality? I'm sure as the body gets older the DNA/genes have to be affected, right?
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I seems like winter/fall puppies are healthier/hardier, if you have the setup for them. JMO. Many 10 year old males cannot breed unless they have been used on a regular basis all along. An older bitch and male can still have a good litter, but sometimes it does seems like the genes cross up different.
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The older they are the low quality the sperm is generally but I know a stud dog at 13 still going strong it just depends. Same for the bitches the egg quaility can go down with age. I have not had enough litters to say if spring or fall is best but I do not think it matters if you are set up properly to take care of them. I have had 2 winter litters and 2 summer litters and think they all turned out the same. The winter litters have their own challenges like keeping the puppies warm and out of drafts.
I think it all comes down to the bitches season, some bitches only come in once a year and you have no choice but to breed then. That is the problem with Siren when she was bred, she comes in once a year and we cannot tell when she ovulates. She was bred with AI's and natural for 2 weeks so we did not miss her ovulation. Turns out we are pretty sure she ovulates really late in her season like on the 18th day, most bitches are ready on the 10-13 so it all depends.
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I really perfer to get my pups in the spring as I live up north winter i hard on everyone. So most everyone i know follows the same chedule as the farmers do and the pups are born around march like calfs are.

I would say that an older male or female might have trouble breeding as the male would have a smaller sprem count and the female might not bear eggs at every heat. Sorta like humans. I would say the ideal time for breeding is 3-6yr age. JMO as i have never breed any dogs or cats I did breed rabbits tho. Whole different story there.



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Thanks guys, I was just wondering because I may have a chance to get a pup from a litter whose sire is older, but very proven.
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Crush is one of my working dogs and she is off a 12 year old stud dog and there is nothing wrong with her. The only real problems you get when using older dogs is small litters, health issues with the bitch if she is too old, or the breeding not taking period. If you have a chance to get a nice dog the age of the stud or dame should not matter as long as they are all healthy.
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Sounds good Lisa. I haven't totally committed to this purchase but have gotten very interested. The sire is 10 and the dam is I believe 4. We will see, it's been very hard to find a good, gamebred (just my preference) pit bull in the area. I just hope that any new pup measures up to my last two, I know I shouldn't hold that over my future pup's head, but you know what I mean. Thanks
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I've had litters in all four seasons, and by far fall and early winter pups are my favorite, even mid winter pups, have always been a little fatter, IMO its the excess food the mother automatically cosumes to build extra energy for the cold, the fatty bodies and white cells are more abundant in the milk with the extra intake. Summer pups for me have been relatively easy to raise pups but not ideal for the dam, so stressfull in the heat, they don't want to eat and milk gets thin easy in summer. I don't like spring litters because I have seen parvo jump yards even from vet potty yards on the shoes of a walking pedestrian who strolled through and into their yard. I was trained and certified in Euthanaisa where I was putting down 26 dogs aday from parvo infected animals from throughout the city. I have witnessed to many first time and BY breeders be it unskilled or not ready for all the diseases, parasites, and pests in the spring. Thats just me. I have had a litter or two ((chuckles)) and for my working dogs this worked best.. There is a perpetual whelping chart that I have gotten memorized from working with wolves and what most people don't know or realize even MOST vets, is that every three months THE FALSE heat is not a FALSE heat and you can use this to get a nice small litter in the summer from the post spring whelping cycle, and again to have a mid winter litter. I bred my dogs on the normal whelping cycle before I applied my knowledge and manipulated the breeding time. Perpetual Whelping Chart. This is the closest to the one I have I could find. Most breeders know that a female comes back into heat very shortly after pups are weaned, Ironically, this is the same time period you would see "spotting" from false heat in between the 6month heat cycles. Gestation is 56-63 days, working dogs as most wolves tend to carry pups in less time and they grow to maturity twice as fast. You can also pull a dog into heat with the right male.. Try to study the whelping charts and the cycle of your dog, make sure you have kennel with a topper or a crate for you gyp in heat, you don't want any Labrapits or Piddles, or Pit bull doxies running around, LOL.. Take in the environment you in and will provide for your dog. If your breeding just because you want a pup off your dog,I totally understand, I would have her fixed immediatley after weaning and drawing up, otherwise you'll get the fever and endup being a BYB not a novice owner, unless of course you have a set up and are prepared to keep every pup from every dog.. Season are everything in most places, so begging the question, I like to have the dogs breeding last week of sept-2nd week of Oct, I've done it that way for 7 of 10 years. I generally go against the flow, thats what works well for me and my crew, watch and study, find out about your dogs bloodline see how they generally whelp, and cycle, see how long does it take pups to get to their full size 8 months, 2years, etc.. Welp' thats all the ramblin' from me.. hahaha
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I've had litters in all four seasons, and by far fall and early winter pups are my favorite, even mid winter pups, have always been a little fatter, IMO its the excess food the mother automatically cosumes to build extra energy for the cold, the fatty bodies and white cells are more abundant in the milk with the extra intake. Summer pups for me have been relatively easy to raise pups but not ideal for the dam, so stressfull in the heat, they don't want to eat and milk gets thin easy in summer. I don't like spring litters because I have seen parvo jump yards even from vet potty yards on the shoes of a walking pedestrian who strolled through and into their yard. I was trained and certified in Euthanaisa where I was putting down 26 dogs aday from parvo infected animals from throughout the city. I have witnessed to many first time and BY breeders be it unskilled or not ready for all the diseases, parasites, and pests in the spring. Thats just me. I have had a litter or two ((chuckles)) and for my working dogs this worked best.. There is a perpetual whelping chart that I have gotten memorized from working with wolves and what most people don't know or realize even MOST vets, is that every three months THE FALSE heat is not a FALSE heat and you can use this to get a nice small litter in the summer from the post spring whelping cycle, and again to have a mid winter litter. I bred my dogs on the normal whelping cycle before I applied my knowledge and manipulated the breeding time. Perpetual Whelping Chart. This is the closest to the one I have I could find. Most breeders know that a female comes back into heat very shortly after pups are weaned, Ironically, this is the same time period you would see "spotting" from false heat in between the 6month heat cycles. Gestation is 56-63 days, working dogs as most wolves tend to carry pups in less time and they grow to maturity twice as fast. You can also pull a dog into heat with the right male.. Try to study the whelping charts and the cycle of your dog, make sure you have kennel with a topper or a crate for you gyp in heat, you don't want any Labrapits or Piddles, or Pit bull doxies running around, LOL.. Take in the environment you in and will provide for your dog. If your breeding just because you want a pup off your dog,I totally understand, I would have her fixed immediatley after weaning and drawing up, otherwise you'll get the fever and endup being a BYB not a novice owner, unless of course you have a set up and are prepared to keep every pup from every dog.. Season are everything in most places, so begging the question, I like to have the dogs breeding last week of sept-2nd week of Oct, I've done it that way for 7 of 10 years. I generally go against the flow, thats what works well for me and my crew, watch and study, find out about your dogs bloodline see how they generally whelp, and cycle, see how long does it take pups to get to their full size 8 months, 2years, etc.. Welp' thats all the ramblin' from me.. hahaha
Very interesting stuff here! I am not going to breed myself, but I'm looking into a litter that has an older sire and just thought I'd throw out a few questions for the board. I'm amazed at the info. found on this forum, I'll keep asking and you guys keep answering. Thanks again!
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If your breeding just because you want a pup off your dog,I totally understand, I would have her fixed immediatley after weaning and drawing up, otherwise you'll get the fever and endup being a BYB not a novice owner, unless of course you have a set up and are prepared to keep every pup from every dog..
That first litter would make anyone a byb. Doesn't matter if you spay them afterwards.

With people age does affect them. There is a higher chance of ADD and other problems, but I don't think dogs have that problem. I would definitely expect a smaller litter. Most of the matches of sperm/egg will not take and terminate. As long as they are all healthy though there will still be nice puppies. I would go for it if the match was good and well thought out.
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