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Old 04-13-2011, 09:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
 

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Lol I think he's keeping this whole litter him and the guy and dividing it between the 2 of them Marty usually keeps all of what he breeds. I here you I have my hands full right now and I have a commitment with Bogarts breeder to get something off his mom and grandfather this summer so after that one no more dogs for me for a very long time lol.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:11 PM   #33 (permalink)
 

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I will pass that on....
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:23 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Our neighbor said his dog was redboy and jacko, that is what the breeder told him. She is UKC registered. But she is rather a wide girl, more of a show look to her than a game bred look.
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:51 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Here's a somewhat harder question. What's the differance between a classic American bully and American staff, besides bloodlines.
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:56 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Here's a somewhat harder question. What's the differance between a classic American bully and American staff, besides bloodlines.
Very good question. Can AKC dogs show in the ABKC Classic class?

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Old 04-15-2011, 05:04 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm not really sure. If the dog is dual reg with ukc it can get abkc registered though, there are a couple of ukc champions that are ch in abkc. With that being said, how come when you have a classic American bully that looks like an American staff people say it lacks breed type?
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For now the can still be registered with ABCK. So can ADBA and UKC.
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I'm not really sure. If the dog is dual reg with ukc it can get abkc registered though, there are a couple of ukc champions that are ch in abkc. With that being said, how come when you have a classic American bully that looks like an American staff people say it lacks breed type?
Obviously this question is directed at me and I have already told you why sweetie. Not enough substance...
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:17 AM   #40 (permalink)
 

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I think the current ABKC standards in all classes are trying to remain consistent with the bully style dog. If you have a dog who by pedigree is a bully but dosesnt fit the ABKC standards because it lacks the bully traits that we are seeing in a lot of the bullies bred nowadays your dog most likely could still be shown in the UKC under the newer standard revisions. The classic bullies who resemble staffs structure wise but lack those bullier traits should have no problems competing in the UKC so long as the dog is show quality to begin with. As there are plenty of Staffs shown in the UKC. I was a little confused at first as to why dogs that looked like the older gaff dogs couldn't do well in the classic ABKC classes. But I understand it now that the ABKC is trying to establish a consistent type of dog that posses the bullier traits not the staff or apbt traits. Which does make sense a bully is not supposed to look like a staff or an Apbt it's supposed to look like a bully. And good breeders who are breeding to the current Abkc standards are not producing dogs who don't fit the current ABKC standards. The bully has grown into it's own and is now showing consistency in type and traits within the gene pools and I think that is where the ABKC is trying to head by locking it down and keeping these dogs true to their standards. Which makes complete sense to me. And later on the ABKC may even open up it's registry to other breeds where those staffy looking bullies could be registered as staffs and shown as staffs. Guess we will just have to wait and see down the line.

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Old 04-18-2011, 05:44 AM   #41 (permalink)
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It wasn't directed to you, just a general question. With that being said it does me no good to send off her abkc papers. Well, it seemed like I wasted my money. Oh well ill get her mom and dad ukc number and get her ukc reg.
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She has never been bred ... She Has only been in heat 2 times. But I spoke to him last night and he actually recently tried to breed her with another dog bred like her we don't know if it took yet. She is tombstone jocko red boy. A nice looking bitch for sure when I picked up Ava from him I met lil bit on the chain she's a wild woman lol Bogart was barking at her like crazy and Marty said bogart wanted to eat his lil bit lmao. Those red boy jokco dogs are full of fire you can't go wrong with dogs bred like that.
I bet I know why she has not come into season.... When you keep dogs railed out like that they do not come into heat. Just like women athletes who are very thin do not have periods, the body will keep you from having a period. Siren has a hard time coming into season and I have to fatten her up if I want to breed her.

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