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Old 09-29-2011, 12:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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My Dog Fights not his fault!!

So i was taking my pup on his aftrnoon walk like i always do after work and decided to take his soccer ball that he loves all too much, and well i know my neighbor has a pit and theyve met once before (both on leash) and nothing really happened just the usual meeting and both trying to be dominating but no aggresion. now i take my dog to the dog park atleast twice a month so i know when hes playful and when hes serious or doesnt get along with other dogs so i saw he was ok to play. as soon as this guy lets go of his dog mine goes after the ball but his goes after my dog. to wrap things up, when Toby (my dog) senses the other dogs aggression he reacts and defends himself, so i run pick him up right away and so does the other guy he appologizes about 15 time sand leaves.....i examine toby and see he has one tooth mark and his lip, now i was wondering if properly cleaned and taken care of will he require stiches? and most importantly will he become weary of all dogs now?...has this ever hapened to anyone here before, was your dog able to just brush that occation off and still be playful with all other dogs??

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NEVER trust a pit bull type dog to not fight and dog parks aren't for pit bull types either imo. For example if your dog was defending himself against a little dog and killed it the big bad pit bull will make the headline . Be safe and avoid dog parks all together. Keep your dog leashed at all times and you have a very beautiful dog ~ I doubt he will become weary of other dogs but don't let this little fight freak you out because you can make him become weary with your actions and keep in mind they don't NEED doggy friends.

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Old 09-29-2011, 12:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How deep is the tooth mark? If it's not that deep, he won't need stitches.

I'd just avoid having Toby around other dogs. Some dogs brush it off, usually if they're not as DA, and others hold a grudge to the day they die, if they're more DA. Not a chance I'd be willing to take since Toby responded to aggression with aggression.
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These breeds do not need doggy friends and they don't belong in the dog park IMO. DA runs through this breed and they can turn on at anytime. Best way to be safe is to not take him to the dog park and let him run around with strange dogs.



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Not your dogs fault, correct. Its yours as a pitbull owner. Dogs 'playing' are a no go with this breed. Please see this thread in regards to pitbulls and dog parks. https://www.gopitbull.com/general-dis...dog-parks.html
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https://www.gopitbull.com/general-dis...dog-parks.html

https://www.gopitbull.com/do-yourself...-dog-park.html

the dogs fine the lip will heal... your first mistake was taking the dog to the dog park... the second was not having the dog on a leash.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
 

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thanks for the help guys and as for the dog park and "doggy friends" hes always had them. his best friend as in every weekend they see eachother and play is a full grown adult large bull terrier. i just wanted to know about his future actions. and also ^^ i know how to take care of my dog and AM a good owner not my fualt other owners dont socialize theyre pups. cant assume everyone ones the same same goes for dogs. dog info is a "general" description of the breen not written on stone just my opininon. this is my second pit and both have had great DP experiences....but then again myabe im just lucky
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Next time your dog defends himself he may seriously injure another dog and then you will be on the news with another bad pit story. I see people all the time thinking they're dog will be ok in the dog park and then something serious happens. IMO dog parks are the worst thing ever and who ever invented them and thought it was a good idea to have a ton of strange dogs running around off leash is a moron. I wish they would close them all and in force leash laws everywhere.



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why would you let your dog run with dogs that you dont know and dont know how well they're trained or how well the owner can handle them? my old neighbor when i was 16 had 2 pit bulls the dogs got along fine, one day they had issues got in a fight almost lost a dog. things can happen in an instant why push the envelope when you know some where in your dogs lineage the a few dogs have been fought?

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Dog aggression is a bell curve of dog tolerance. You've been lucky.

Here are some great links on dog aggression/tolerance, monitoring play between your dog and others, and how to socialize your pit bull correctly.

http://badrap.org/rescue/dogdog.html
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/keepingthepeace.html
http://badrap.org/rescue/socializing.html

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Dog Parks: Because excitement levels run high at dog parks, and not all the participants are fair players, smart dog owners avoid them in place of smaller, supervised play groups with dogs that know and like each other.

^ that's why your dog gets along with with the bull terrier. He knows the bull terrier and likes him. That won't be the case with every dog he meets, as this incident showed.
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agree with all above, you both were in the wrong . This is not the breed to have at dog parks for this exact reason. Hope a lesson was learned here.
Now for the wound is it deep ? if its not bleeding still and isnt that bad just clean it well and leave it , should heal , if its deep you may need a stitch or 2. post a pic if you cant tell.
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Maybe im wrong but im just doing what past experiences tell me is ok. last pit never had a problem and so far this one hasnt either. Yes i do agree on one thing, some owners just go to chat with other owners and are very irresponsible, and the one thing that has gotten me to go on sundays when theres less dogs is not knowing how clean other dogs might be. but other than that he loves it... i am always caution and always right behind him when i go to a DP or any other place i take him to play and run, unfortunatley i dont have many options for him to be free and just run so this i thought was my only option...
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Maybe im wrong but im just doing what past experiences tell me is ok. last pit never had a problem and so far this one hasnt either.

unfortunatley i dont have many options for him to be free and just run so this i thought was my only option...
Yes, but not every dog is the same. And dog tolerance/aggression can change over time. How old is Toby?

Depending on where you live, try looking for enclosed baseball diamonds, soccer/football fields, etc. Or post an ad on Craigslist asking to borrow someone's fenced yard for 2-3 times a week and say you'll clean up after him.
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IMO , its not a good option unless you have the park to yourself and NOONE is there. regardless of being right behind him things can pop off very fast in the matter of seconds. Im assuming you dont carry a break stick , seperating dogs is not easy and with this breed dont expect much help from the other dogs owners { from personal experience , they wont come near your dog majority of the time} so you will be trying to seperate dogs alone. Your dog will be seen at fault just based on the breed , it will bring bad media to the breed, the city your in will deal with more BSL stuff, your dog can be taken from you and euthanized . It happens all the time. Best motto I have found is " dont set your dog up to fail" its really not worth the risk. There are many who have never had issues for years then all out of the blue that prey drive or DA kicks in and something happens.
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Yes, but not every dog is the same. And dog tolerance/aggression can change over time. How old is Toby?

Depending on where you live, try looking for enclosed baseball diamonds, soccer/football fields, etc. Or post an ad on Craigslist asking to borrow someone's fenced yard for 2-3 times a week and say you'll clean up after him.
we used to use tennis courts! they were the best they file the nails and if your dog jumps over the nets its also good excercise.
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