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Old 11-23-2011, 10:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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PS.. the japanese used the same strain of DDB in their Tosa.. They blended game dog in as well by 20 different names but they are essentially the same as a Whopper.. Extinct DDB and game bred APBT of that time. .. this is why the tosa is the only "game" mastiff (bandog).

They bred for that in the large dog and kept it alive... Americans bred for deep game which controls the size of the dog really as we grab the gamest we also end up with smaller dogs usually although there are big dogs up to 75lbs considered game.. APBTs are NOT allowed in TOSA matches in JAPAN. APBTs go by cajun rules and have their own circuit over their.. Just to show that genetics is the same no matter what word we wanna call it.
I love those Tosa vs APBT debates, pointless by any standard. Two completely different animals regardless if house similar abilities. Like comparing a vintage muscle car to the finest of imports.. Both have their place, both can perform greatly.. Why compare them?

My personal idea of a whopper and the OP's dogs do not go hand to hand, i expect any breeder of any hound to accept responsibility and breed to the ability of said hound.. IMHO that dog posted can't perform, if it can than its just an accident waiting to happen.. can't fight genetics and can't fight structure forever. Perhaps over where the OP lives that is a fine example...

Stan EXCELLENT posts as always.. telling it how it is no side steps.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:31 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:05 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:59 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Welcome to the group, What did you win all the awards for? Got any more dogs you could post?

OK peeps, whats a Whopper in the sense you're all using it?
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:07 AM   #20 (permalink)
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OK peeps, whats a Whopper in the sense you're all using it?
Its a line of dogs.

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Old 11-24-2011, 01:18 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Awesome! I figured and thanks for posting the link Holly. Google was all over, should have searched here
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Welcome to the group, What did you win all the awards for? Got any more dogs you could post?

OK peeps, whats a Whopper in the sense you're all using it?
Whopper is a line of whoknowwhats? and is a touchy subject for those that own chevy dogs. They call them "XL pit bulls". To me though, there is no such thing.
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:05 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Welcome to the forum, I am sure you will find the differences in breeds if you stick around. I love that you are obviously active with youre dog. More then some can say.

As the ADBA goes they are working by implementing.new rules in weightpull, and confirmation to discurage the continued breeding of pure shopper dogs. I can see it would hard to dismiss all dogs that have whipped blood.
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:20 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Sawadee krap. Definitely surprised to see a bully from Thailand! When I saw the thread title I was expecting to see a [] type dog. Obviously there is an active bully scene there too judging by the trophies.

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Sawadee krap. Definitely surprised to see a bully from Thailand! When I saw the thread title I was expecting to see a [] type dog. Obviously there is an active bully scene there too judging by the trophies.

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Sawadee krap. Definitely surprised to see a bully from Thailand! When I saw the thread title I was expecting to see a [] type dog. Obviously there is an active bully scene there too judging by the trophies.

Welcome to the forum, mate.
yes Sawadee krab hope we can share what we love in here
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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i try to stay away from tearing down others even when i know they are full of it. but photoshop is a hobby of mine. it's been very helpful in recognizing altered photos. those of you that also dabble or even work in digital art will understand.
without getting technical, i think the third photo has been toyed with. if you look at the proportions of the other photos, distance between eyes, ears, other facial landmarks, you will see they aren't consistent with the third pic. plus, the dog appears to have a head 2x larger than the guy holding him up. the last photo doesn't even come close.
if this guy is tweaking photos i would guess that his story is also fabricated.
nonetheless, the dog is unique. i don't understand the motivation to mislead people.
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To be honest,i'm not took that pic(pic no 3 is freak parent ReDLion Monster x ReDQeen) but if you have check with redlion website it show about Monster head 26 1/2" i think no photo require to use for ReDLion dogs

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if those are different dogs then i'm wrong and i have no idea what i'm talking about.
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