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Old 02-04-2012, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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preparation for a second dog

so my apbt is 8 months old, i have spoiled the living snot out of him, why? because i can and i am committed to him like my son Alexander. anyways, in 2 weeks , due to circumstances i am bringing a 15 month old mix (maybe pit, lab and gsd )female (her name is delilah by coincidence , my boys name is samson ) ...they have had 2 play dates and they get along beautifully.

anyways, forget if u approve or disapprove of bringing in another dog etv etc..., its happening and nothing is going to change that.

well, my plan is when neither my son or I are at home to have the dogs separated (shes going to be spayed on the 15th b4 coming home with me) i have an extra bedroom that is about as pit bull proof as it s gonna get, its where i leave samson when i go to work without him, .... and i have a well protected backyard , so one inside one outside ...max 4 hrs so not end of the world.

my question to u guys....anything u can think of to get the home ready for the change???? both will be inside dogs with the availability of going outside as long as my son or i are home . samson right now goes outside in the mornings for a few hours (i go to work late , like 1030am) and on weekends he spends half day outside enjoying the sun and running around.....but always comes inside constantly...same rules will apply to delilah.

one big happy family.... any tips coming up would be lovely


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Old 02-04-2012, 06:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Im guessing they will be inside when your not home, investing in two crates would be a good idea forthe sake of your house.
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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uhm...lol

samson will be in bedroom and delilah in backyard when im not home. (i do have a crate for samson but i have never used it, he doesnt like it and i dont need it since i use the spare bedroom as a CRATE.

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Old 02-04-2012, 06:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry I kind of read to fast! I don't have any tips then, enjoy your new addition!
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lol ty, ya i skim through paragraphs too hahaha

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Look into the two week shutdown, this is a copy & pasteso I might have copied some parts accidentally but it should help
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* The two week shut down is geared to teen to adult dogs . Puppies do need a bonding time with their new humans, a whelping period so to speak, but they have a different requirements than a more aged dog . It is important to fully vaccinate and de-worm your puppy before venturing out into the world. I suggest strongly getting your new puppy to a veterinarian for proper de-worming and vaccinations. But note the shut down period is not recommended for young puppies as they have crucial needs that are special than older dogs in proper development and socialization.

“The First Two Weeks – Give’em a Break!”
why?

If I could stress one of the biggest errors people make with new dogs and foster dogs it is rushing the dog into the new world so fast . This shut down gives the dog a chance to say “ahhh” take a breath and restart into its new world.

From people I have helped I hear;
"I introduced her to 15 people the first day I had her!" ;" he was a bit leery but seems to like my other 3 dogs" ; "she went everywhere with me "
All in the first few days of the new home..... (!!!)

two weeks later we hear;
" I think we will have to rehome the new dog" "the new dog barked and nipped at my kid"
"we had a dog fight" ; “the new dog barked at me for moving him off the couch”

Ok, folks, here it comes, some feel this is extreme, why? I really do not know.
But when bringing in a new dog, post finding, adoption, buying, etc, Give it time to adjust to you and your family and the dogs in the new environment.
Just as if it were a new baby or puppy, we wouldn’t think of rushing out with a baby or puppy, yet with older pups and dogs we just expect them to take our lives in all at once!

TWO WEEKS - "shut down"
For the first two weeks, (sometimes even longer) a dog takes in the new environment, who is the top person, or animal, who ARE these people!? By pushing a dog too fast, and throwing too much at the dog we look like we are not the leaders,and the dog can feel it MUST defend itself , as the leader is surely no one he has met so far!
We coo , coodle, drag the dog to home to home to person to person, and the dog has NO idea who we are. We correct for things it doesn’t understand, we talk in a new human language using words he does not know.
A key thing to remember is "this is the dating period NOT the honeymoon"
When you first met your "spouse or significant other”, you were on your best behavior, you were not relaxed enough to be all of yourself, were you?
Just think of the things you do physically once you get to KNOW a person,
you wouldn’t run up to a stranger and hug them and squeeze them!
Imagine, if on the first date, this new person, was all over you touching you and having their friends hug you and pat you on the head, and jostle your shoulders, looked in your mouth then he whisked you off to another strangers home and they did the same thing.
Would you think this person normal and SAFE? Wouldn’t you feel invaded and
begin to get a bit snarky or defensive yourself? Wouldn’t you think to push these people away for obviously your date is out of their mind, as they aren’t going to save you from these weirdoes!!
Yet we do this very thing to our dogs, and then get upset or worried that they aren’t relaxed and accepting of EVERYTHING instantly!

By shutting down the dog, it gives the dog TIME to see you , meet YOU, hear and take in the new sounds and smells of your home and all the people in it. In the 1st two weeks;
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Crate the dog in a room by itself if possible.(Believe me, dogs are sensory animals, they know more than you think without seeing it).
Leash the dog (so I don’t have to correct it ..you don’t have that right yet!), give it exercise time in the yard on lunge line or in fenced yard..but other than that.. LEASH , (yes..leash in the house too.)
Do no training at all, just fun exercise and maybe throw some toys for fun, leash the dog if you don’t have a fence outside. But DO NOT leave the yard, AT ALL.
No car rides, no other dogs, (unless crated beside them), no pet stores, no WALKS even, nothing but you and household family, your home, your yard. (Unless of course the dog needs to go to the vetinarian)
Believe me dogs can live two weeks without walks. Walks are stressful for there is so much coming at you and your dog! And the dog has no clue who you are yet. The dog may react to something and we start correcting it with the leash and we just installed a VERY STRESSFUL moment to the dog in what should be a fun and learning walk.
TEACH the dog by doing the shut down, that YOU are the one to look to, that you are now here for the dog! He can trust in you and look to you for guidance.
Then you can venture out into new situations one at a time, the dog knows he can trust in his new humans and can relax under the fair guidance of his new leaders!

In the house take the dog out only for about 20-30 minute intervals , post excercise/yard times.,and ALWAYS on a leash when in the house or in an unfenced yard.
Exercise is important! Running and free time are stress relievers, but don’t set your dog up for failure, make exercise and yard time fun and relaxing and tiring!

Then PUT THE DOG AWAY. let it absorb and think and relax. Ignore crying or barking, just like a new born baby, he must find security when you are not right there, and if you run to him each time he will think barking and crying will get your attention.
I do not introduce resident dogs for these two weeks, they can be side by side in the crates, (not nose to nose for they can feel defensive) . Some dogs will bond instantly with the other dogs if we don’t bond FIRST with the dog, and this can lead to some other issues, as the dog will look to the other dog(s) for guidance and not YOU!

Literally in two weeks you will see a change in the dog and begin to see its honest and true personality.
Just like a house guest.. they are well behaved and literally shut down and “polite” themselves these first few weeks, then post this time, they relax and the true personality begins to shine thru.

so, please,, if nothing else for your new dog, give it the time to LEARN YOU as you are learning who they are!
This method works on shy dogs, confident dogs, abuse cases, chained dogs that come in, rowdy dogs, all temperaments!
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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i gotta admit, at first i was going to skim through cuz it seemed irrelevant to my situation but i was wrong.

good post thank you. and idk if by instinct because i have good fatherly instinct since my son was born 16 years ago.... but same with dogs ...i seem to have a great innate way to always have a totally relaxed environment for any dog in my house.

i was totally planning on letting her get situated before i try to bond or correct or this or that..... , they know each other so thats not going to be an issue unless samson develops a feeling of her coming into HIS territory.... cuz the pizza guy wasnt too welcomed the other night when he rang the doorbell LMAO !!! ... i wasnt going to find out how samson reacts to a stranger at the door at night so i put him in his room ....im sure he woulda licked the dude to death eventually but he goes nuts when someone is at the door...even me sometimes comes charging howling at me as if i was an intruder until he realizes its me hahahah


the ONLY part that struck me as odd , but makes sense is to leash delilah inside the house.... lessen the variables so she can get used to us first, then we worry about her not knowing what the rules around the house are.... basically no rules, .... samson has access to evertyhing, .... and so will she eventually.... only rule is when both son and i are gone samson goes into the extra bedroom that is his so called crate...and i do have a large crate for a pitbull ....so idk


u guys think crating one dog in the house and the other dog in the safe bedroom is the way to go?? or one in backyard, one inside safe room? or both inside safe room...one inside crate one outside????

yeah please tell me what u think about those 3 choices , im a noob so any help is greatly appreciated
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Glad it helped, I'm a skimmer too. I had to train myself to read things like that because it seems that I always learn at least one thing from stuff even if I don't agree with it.


Anyway, I'd go with saferoom/crate, here we use crate/crate in a another room for the dogs that don't get along or are new. I've got a little guy I'm transporting for rescue chillin' in my bedroom in Alice's large crate at the moment. (Alice is in her kennel)
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The two week shutdown is a lifesaver!
Aklso, really I would only advise getting a breakstick *Juuusssst* in case.
Congrats on your new addition!
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thanks , ill post pix when they are together. cant wait
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