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Old 04-27-2012, 12:11 AM   #46 (permalink)
 
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After and hours later, before that I don't know if kids were around him with the staff.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:20 AM   #47 (permalink)
 
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Well he may have just been mellowed out from the medicine .
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:22 AM   #48 (permalink)
 
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That's what I'm afraid of. I'll have a better temperament test when drugs won't be a variable when I take him to shelter to see how he acts around their kids.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:50 AM   #49 (permalink)
 
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I am not sure if this may be helpful but I am going to add my two cents. We don't have children but six great nieces/nephews 5mths-11y/o. Beastley was never around children he was only ever around my husband or myself. When the kids came to visit I kept Beastley crated so he could hear them. Then I took the time to teach the older one's the rules. I had everyone stand a safe distance away and brought Beastley out leashed/muzzled (muzzle if you are comfortable with it). I had total control of him. Each child had a bag of goodies. I told the kids initially not to move and not look at him and randomly throw the goodies to him and let him move about on the leash with me at his side. I asked them to slowly move about at a safe distance and not look at him and throw goodies. We did this for several visits (the smaller ones were kept in another area and they had spare blankets that I threw on the floor with their scent) After a few visits like this I told the kids/friends to play outside and make a ruckus and had him inside with the windows open and where he could see/hear them. I gave the kids the goodies again and leashed and muzzled him and while they played I had the kids play and randomly throw goodies. Now Beastley doesn't need to be leashed or muzzled around them he has learned that kids=goodies but they are never left alone with Beastley, when I leave the room so does he. When things get wild and I see Beastley getting excited with play it's time out and he is put in another room for quiet time. It was a long and slow process but if you are not willing to take the time get a vet check, work with a behaviorist or have safe avenue I would sadly PTS.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:23 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Children in the age group you said your dog barked at often are kind of scary to dogs who haven't been exposed to them. They move different, they shriek, they are often exceedingly rude in their behavior toward dogs. They grab, they move quickly (and at the dogs own level) A dog that barks ( or even growls) to show his/her alarm, especially one who makes no move toward (or, indeed, tries to evade) is merely expressing his/her discomfort. This is a different level then a dog who is actively going after children, rather than showing (or trying to show) avoidance behavior. Barking and retreating is a form of avoidance, though it is at the level of someone who yells "GO AWAY!" as they retreat, rather than just turning and walking away. We often don't give our dogs the opportunity they would normally seek in retreating, being as they are on leash or forced in other ways to deal with something or situations they would choose to flee on their own.

You are the one who was with your dog, you are the one who needs to read what he/she is trying to say. We can't see that, we can only conjecture. We don't know your situation, nor do we know how willing you are to work safely with a behavior that can, truly, escalate.

The breed IS under the microscope, you don't have the leeway of making mistakes. That's where the advice to put the dog down comes from. An issue of this type comes with a lot of baggage for you, the owner, as well.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
 
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I mainly want to work with the shelter not because they know more but because they are willing to let me see how he acts around their kids. I still am going to take him to the vet and get some people to evaluate his behavior. I also kept that woman's trainer in mind if I can't get him okay with children.
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Old 04-28-2012, 03:33 PM   #52 (permalink)
 
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Okay, I took him to shelter where there was kids. He was great and didn't bother them or bark. The woman took him and I stood outside and she took him towards kids and let him walk by them and he was great. Some of the kids were mentally handicapped and yelling and he still ignored them. She took him around cats, kittens, barking dogs, calm dogs, and even let him play with a pit bull puppy. He didn't bark or growl or do anything aggressive, even played with the puppy. She would do stuff to see how aggressive he was like grab his tail and play with his ears and force him to sit. He did nothing. She said if he was aggressive he would have done bit me for making him sit and etc. She said shes dealt with many dogs that get mad when you do that. So shes going to bring in her kids who love to train dogs and work with them to socialize him more around kids. One of them owns a pit bull that he has trained personally. So things are looking good.
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:50 PM   #53 (permalink)
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That's great news. I hope everything works out for you and your dog.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:43 PM   #54 (permalink)
 
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Yes, and I couldn't be happier. I'm so glad that I didn't give up on him and put him to sleep
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