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Old 05-03-2012, 04:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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IMO and experience ........... NO!

None of the bully strain dogs can keep up with the strains of dogs such as Halls, Garner, Buck, Redboy/jeep, Jocko Redboy, Chavis, .. even BIG dogs such as Battendorf dogs down from Alligator stock.. Its more about whats inside .. Bullies run out of steam.

There is NO breed as "Pit Bull" unless your talking Traditional American Pit Bull Terriers and even those by the best dog men that has been and currently are refer to them as what they are "bulldogs". ... When asked: "why do you call them bulldogs" Colby said "I call them bulldogs because thats what they are."

its all about the ability inside and out that define the APBT, yes some RE strains hold more true than others, NO they cannot keep up with stock directly off of proven blood.

OMG ^^^ @ elvisfink its a giant boston terrier!

but then people that own bull dogs would say its not a bull dog just like people say they are not a apbt so i think that some are closer to apbt and some are closer to a bull dog imo but like said before all of them are mutts lol but i love them all
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You gotta love Paper Hangers. This pile of is UKC registered an American Pit Bull Terrier.



see i totally agree that is not a pit at all more a bulldog lol the face dont even look like a pittie lol
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but then people that own bull dogs would say its not a bull dog just like people say they are not a apbt so i think that some are closer to apbt and some are closer to a bull dog imo but like said before all of them are mutts lol but i love them all
where do you think the bandog bulldog proven dog philosophy come from you gave vilebeast credit for? ... Same philosophy where they're bulldogs, comes from. I don't care what people think; I care about truth. Bulldogs are under 80 and Bandogs are 80 and over, Terriers are high end Earth Tearers.. Dogs named for their work and region derived.

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where do you think the bandog bulldog proven dog philosophy come from you gave vilebeast credit for? ... Same philosophy where they're bulldogs, comes from. I don't care what people think; I care about truth. Bulldogs are under 80 and Bandogs are 80 and over, Terriers are high end Earth Tearers.. Dogs named for their work and region derived.

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nah.. its down from the old dog men anyway, Colby and others his generation, I just honor it and hold it true; its just funny to see one person agree with the same view they disagree with just worded a lil different. I get tired of saying the same thing over and over its a charm to see others who get it, got it. I was just saying, Tyson agrees with you I said the same thing more detailed different words and he disagrees..
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where do you think the bandog bulldog proven dog philosophy come from you gave vilebeast credit for? ... Same philosophy where they're bulldogs, comes from. I don't care what people think; I care about truth. Bulldogs are under 80 and Bandogs are 80 and over, Terriers are high end Earth Tearers.. Dogs named for their work and region derived.

ok fine ill give you some credit to you too lol wither way i love them all they are all unique in their own way and all have pros and cons and their will always be haters no matter what buly breed you have lol
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Just know that WORK defines the breed and strains ... thats the difference.
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nah.. its down from the old dog men anyway, Colby and others his generation, I just honor it and hold it true; its just funny to see one person agree with the same view they disagree with just worded a lil different. I get tired of saying the same thing over and over its a charm to see others who get it, got it. I was just saying, Tyson agrees with you I said the same thing more detailed different words and he disagrees..
I wasnt disagreeing just picking your brain thats all
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The bloodlines in the pedigree and like firehazzard said
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It is obvious that if a dog is crazy huge and looks like a elephant he is a bully, But just because a dog is short does not make them bully right? Thats like saying a midget is not a person. If a dog is 60 65 lbs and short who determines it to be a bully.
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Yup all about the bloodlines. I have a girl I could show UKC but she is bully blood. Thats why when someone comes on asking us to say what there dog is just from looking at it we cant. Bullys come in all sizes you cant go just off looks.

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Bloodline is only part of the equation.. In working dogs its PURPOSE, FUNCTION and ABILITY.. I swear no matter how many times we discuss this, no matter how simple it is put.. very few get it.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a dog of which bred down from Bulldog lines tested, proven in the []..

Mr Miagi ain't no Bulldog, its a useless, genetic POS representation of ALL thats wrong with todays "Bulldog" owners.. Nothing more, nothing less..

The American Bully has been bred and instilled to NOT have the same function (i.e ability to endure heavy physical, mental work loads, stress, etc) as well as breeding AWAY from function an breeding towards the show ring and companionship.. Are there a few exceptions? Sure, but no where near what the Bulldog or APBT is on ANY level. The few exceptions there are is a genetic throw back to the Bulldog.. Plain and simple.
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Bloodline is only part of the equation.. In working dogs its PURPOSE, FUNCTION and ABILITY.. I swear no matter how many times we discuss this, no matter how simple it is put.. very few get it.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a dog of which bred down from Bulldog lines tested, proven in the []..

Mr Miagi ain't no Bulldog, its a useless, genetic POS representation of ALL thats wrong with todays "Bulldog" owners.. Nothing more, nothing less..

The American Bully has been bred and instilled to NOT have the same function (i.e ability to endure heavy physical, mental work loads, stress, etc) as well as breeding AWAY from function an breeding towards the show ring and companionship.. Are there a few exceptions? Sure, but no where near what the Bulldog or APBT is on ANY level. The few exceptions there are is a genetic throw back to the Bulldog.. Plain and simple.
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I wasnt disagreeing just picking your brain thats all
ah.. cool... Playing the devils advocate card, are we?
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Bloodline is only part of the equation.. In working dogs its PURPOSE, FUNCTION and ABILITY.. I swear no matter how many times we discuss this, no matter how simple it is put.. very few get it.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a dog of which bred down from Bulldog lines tested, proven in the []..

Mr Miagi ain't no Bulldog, its a useless, genetic POS representation of ALL thats wrong with todays "Bulldog" owners.. Nothing more, nothing less..

The American Bully has been bred and instilled to NOT have the same function (i.e ability to endure heavy physical, mental work loads, stress, etc) as well as breeding AWAY from function an breeding towards the show ring and companionship.. Are there a few exceptions? Sure, but no where near what the Bulldog or APBT is on ANY level. The few exceptions there are is a genetic throw back to the Bulldog.. Plain and simple.
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APBT purpose was the []. The [] is now illegal. Sure it can be a catch dog, but if i wanted a catch dog id move towards a different breed such as a DOGO.

90% of the APBTs on this site are floating on the same boat my bullies are on.

Its general purpose is only proven one way. You can have the greatest game dog blood line, but if it aint got no game its floating on the same boat my bullies are on(show & companionship).

I want a dog with short back, wide chest, girth, blocked head piece, and the drive of an APBT('drive' not game), and that is my American Bully.

Lets not generalize bullies, with other bully train wrecks, because the APBT world has their train wrecks as well just like any other purebred that is being inbred or line bred.

The problem in the bully world is that these dogs sell for alot. When your typical BYB obtains a dog, and its overall look doesnt come out per say "Correct," the BYB doesnt want to face reality that his dog is not breeding quality. Now his overpriced dog is useless. This is where the breeder tries to make his money back by doing bad breeding.
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Bloodline is only part of the equation.. In working dogs its PURPOSE, FUNCTION and ABILITY.. I swear no matter how many times we discuss this, no matter how simple it is put.. very few get it.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a dog of which bred down from Bulldog lines tested, proven in the []..

Mr Miagi ain't no Bulldog, its a useless, genetic POS representation of ALL thats wrong with todays "Bulldog" owners.. Nothing more, nothing less..

The American Bully has been bred and instilled to NOT have the same function (i.e ability to endure heavy physical, mental work loads, stress, etc) as well as breeding AWAY from function an breeding towards the show ring and companionship.. Are there a few exceptions? Sure, but no where near what the Bulldog or APBT is on ANY level. The few exceptions there are is a genetic throw back to the Bulldog.. Plain and simple.
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