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Old 05-05-2012, 05:17 AM   #61 (permalink)
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your still missing the point.. bull and terrier are ONE breed. of each other.

You ask why I play that card.. Okie dokie.. its all in your language.



in which they were... I've followed the genetic herritage all the back to the 1800s and the first terriers registered were registered in England first and the worlds oldest dogs registry in the mid 1800s. The dogs were direct result from inbreeding the pit bulldogs and they simply bred it back, as it is of the same blood really really really stacked.

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go to southern kennels. Look at his JockoRedboy stock.. just like what I did with mine you can clearly see they've isolated the Pit Bulldog and the Pit Bullterrier ... but what everyone forgets is they are the same blood. The fact is that the demographic area and use of the dog named the dog for the function, terriers are varmint and vermin exterminaters while bulldogs were the stock and bulldogs but they're both the same dog bred in different ways. The game bred bulldog aka APBT strain bulldog is the most diverse purebred dog today. Do I know more than they did? NO I use their books, their works, their wisdom and understanding which = knowledge.
You always want to argue this point with me, I'm not really sure why. You like to talk in circles around my posts, and try to poke holes in their validity, then you go on and illustrate exactly what I was talking about. Maybe you just misunderstand me. I am willing to grant I may not be clear, I do drink a lot, my bad. The point I made was that the breed is the bull and terrier.
You then disagree and go on about bull and terriers? There are straight bulldog breeds, there are straight terrier breeds today. Yet, THIS diverse breed, going WAY back, is a blending of both. It should be celebrated as such. Why this is an arguable point escapes me.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:35 AM   #62 (permalink)
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That is why once they have been deemed a successful dog.. They were given the name American Pitbull Terrier and thus.. Both breed types are celebrated no?

Until then, the name for them was most likely whatever term that particular dogman was fond of hounds, terriers, bulldogs, bandogs.. whatever... the works even if you will.

Hope this meets in the middle. Btw there should restrictions on just how far you can mutate and animal... Its getting quite out of control
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That is why once they have been deemed a successful dog.. They were given the name American Pitbull Terrier and thus.. Both breed types are celebrated no?

Until then, the name for them was most likely whatever term that particular dogman was fond of hounds, terriers, bulldogs, bandogs.. whatever... the works even if you will.

Hope this meets in the middle. Btw there should restrictions on just how far you can mutate and animal... Its getting quite out of control
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