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Old 07-03-2012, 04:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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hi I am an experienced pitty owner and this Is my first female pit (always had males) HISTORY ::She is 2 1/2 and full breed razors edge registered abda and traced bloodlines to rule out any inbreeding. She is fixed and has been since 10 months of age (after first heat). Problem.. my daughter ran over her with a atv and she has been down for about 2 months(mothers day was the accident) now that she is fully healed she is having a little bit of an attitude problem she has snaped at me and my husband and she is being real agressive with our male dog in which she was brought up with (playmates) she has bitten him hard enough to get staples. Ive dealt with my fair share of agression but not to this degree. I have started walking her now to wear her out some but dont want to over do it.. (torn ligament in hip and partial tear of acl). what can I do to stop this behavior? I refuse to get rid of her there is nothing I cant or wont do to stop this behavior. I can pretty much train my dogs to do anything but dont know where to start on this behavior

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Old 07-03-2012, 05:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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when she has snapped at you and your husband was this after she healed ? or was this during a time she was still in pain. Can you explain a bit more as to what happened to lead up to the snapping and what the reaction was of you and your husband.

The snapping at the other dog I would say is something else known as dog aggression. being experienced in this breed Im sure you know about this and how common it is in this breed right? If anything they may just have to be crate and rotated. or very carefully watched if they are allowed together { my home I wouldnt even chance it anymore , but that is up to you }.

The only thing that raises a red flag to me is the snapping at people. But we need more info as to what went on with those incidents to determine a possible cause.

I agree with working her out to what she can handle and try and work off some of that pent up energy which can be turning into this behaviour you dont want to se, very likely she is getting bored. Have you thought about hydro therapy there are some places who offer it maybe look into it in your area or even controlled swimming if you have a pool or lake you can go to and get in with her. Water is a great way to build muscle back up and help with rehab injuries like ACL tears and strains.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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first off.. razors edge is an american bully bloodline not apbt.. second.. there is nothing wrong with a line bred dog..
did you have her checked by a vet for any other issues? there is nothing wrong with her being DA.. most of these dogs are
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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she has been fully checked by 3 vets day of accident did full blood work full xrays and all came out fine 2nd vet 3 weeks later she wasnt walking did another full blood work and exam all came out fine said tore ligament and acl tear refered me to specialist and did a recheck and all is fine. I traced the papers because I know in breeding causes agression and ruled that out. shes just being a total B**** excuse my french.. lol
she plays and then just Snaps ! growls and bites very hard hair stands up and just flips! never done this in the past. even if im just messing with her and say SQUIRREL she will look for it then come after me and try to bite me. ( she likes to chase squirrels) thought just been down built up tension but I dont know.

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could she have injured her head in the "accident"? Not saying brain damage hurt but a concussion type injury will cause ongoing headaches, which could cause the grumpy moments.
also i would look at the enviroment when she has had the aggression, are there loud noises, things moving fast etc, things that could trigger the fear response after being in a traumatic incedent.
good luck to you and hoping when she feels completely well she will be back to her normal self
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Sounds like she is redirecting towards you and either her age coming into adulthood or her accident might har caused it. Not a good situation but I have someone evaluate her temperament ASAP not a training but a specialist. I don't like any dogs redirecting on humans, especially the ones feeding them. What has been your reaction to her after or during the incidents?
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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hi I am an experienced pitty owner and this Is my first female pit (always had males) HISTORY ::She is 2 1/2 and full breed razors edge registered abda and traced bloodlines to rule out any inbreeding. She is fixed and has been since 10 months of age (after first heat). Problem.. my daughter ran over her with a atv and she has been down for about 2 months(mothers day was the accident) now that she is fully healed she is having a little bit of an attitude problem she has snaped at me and my husband and she is being real agressive with our male dog in which she was brought up with (playmates) she has bitten him hard enough to get staples. Ive dealt with my fair share of agression but not to this degree. I have started walking her now to wear her out some but dont want to over do it.. (torn ligament in hip and partial tear of acl). what can I do to stop this behavior? I refuse to get rid of her there is nothing I cant or wont do to stop this behavior. I can pretty much train my dogs to do anything but dont know where to start on this behavior

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!
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As somebody pointed, Razors Edge are not ApBT's. Also, all bloodlines come by indreeding, or they wouldn't be bloodlines at all.
Snapping (flashing), hair standing, etc comes from the non pit dogs. ApBT's do not use threat displays.
Biting at you because it is injured??? Again, ApBTs are the breed of dog one can handle when injured....
They know when you are trying to help them.

I know what I would do in this situation, which I won't say.
But my question is, how did your daughter manage to run this dog over with an ATV?

But tolerating a dog lashing out at you is not a good thing.
Once it's bitten, it's too late. Would you tolerate a bite? I hope not.
These dogs may not be ApBT's, but they are labeled such, and counted by many to be such.
And since you own one, it is your responsibility to ensure your dog is not another black spot to the breed image.
Everything you have described on the behavior of this dog is a bad sign.
I would never tolerate it in one of my dogs, EVER!
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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I traced the papers because I know in breeding causes agression and ruled that out.
That is not one bit true at all....inbreeding does not cause aggression!!!!!
I know of bloodlines where all the dogs can trace to just 5 total dogs as the foundation, to this day.
NONE have aggression issues!!!
ALL BLOODLINES were developed from inbreeding, and line breeding.
If you breed to a dog of different blood, it is cross breeding.
Cross bred and scatter bred dogs are not a bloodline.

A dogs temperament comes from its genetics, and then its environment. That's it.
I have heard it said, "Genetics loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger."
This situation your daughter put upon this dog seems to have "pulled the trigger" so to speak. JMO.

A dog with good genetics can be corrected....a dog with bad cannot.
And the dog cannot help with what genetics and chromosones it gets passed to them.
It is a breeders job to get it out, before getting rid of a dog.

I'll never buy something I need to spend money fixing.
Take your complaint to the breeder. Ask where this behavior comes from.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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She is not dog aggressive by any means. I can take any dog around her and she will play tail wagging or flat out ignore the other dog. She is well socialized. and always been around people and other dogs.
Karma likes to chase tires i guess you would say, so she was chasing the tires on the atv and somehow got in front of the atv (polaris razr) and my daughter ran her over.
Incident when she snapped at me:: I told her Squirrel and she ran off checked all the trees for the squirrel and didnt find it so she came back towards me jumped on me and snapped at my arm. it was almost like she was mad at me and telling me there isnt a squirrel in a hateful manner.. lol
when she bit my other dog they were playing in the back yard and running the fence with the neighbors dog like they always do and if my male gets in her way she takes off after him and tries to bite him. but then after they are done running she will come in and play tug of war together. my male and her have been together for 2 years and play and sleep together she has never showed agression towards him.
I almost feel like a change in her from going to adulthood. she is her normal sp[unky self brings me the ball to play every min she can. always has a toy in her mouth. vet checked her again and says all is well and resume normal activity just these few behavior issues are coming into play

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Old 07-03-2012, 06:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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has she only snapped at you that one time? I thought was at your hubby as well ?? if so what caused the reaction on the other incident. I would personally be very careful leaving your two dogs out alone when you aren't home or allowing them to sleep together at night, as you are already seeing the changes that have happened as she matured. We hear storys all the time , my dogs loved eachother and then we came home to find ...... or my dog never showed aggression to other dogs until the other day ..... and now my dog has to be put down.....
I would stop allowing her to play with other dogs at the park , the last thing you want is for her to get carried away and try and "bite " someone elses dog , Im pretty certain someone else wont find that amuzing in the least bit.

It's hard to say if she is just changing due to maturity since none of us here know her, this can very well be genetics and be something noone could have controlled or stopped from happening, this could also be due to the traumatic incident she just went through.
My advice would be to search for an EXPERIENCED trainer who can do temperment testing on her and see where she lays with all that, make sure they have experience with this breed as well.
This is my opinion and my opinion only and some will disagree but a dog who is redirecting at me , would be 6 feet under right now. that is the #1 thing i will NOT tolerate and it is NOT a characturistic of this breed.
I have a feeling this is not an option for you at this time until you have exhausted your options. So I offer this advice and hope you take it. Keep this dog very well contained, DO NOT let her off leash or around strangers freely. Just be the responsible owner here and make sure there are no accidents that we will see in the media where it shows the breed we love in the bad light yet again. If this dog has redirected on you the person who feeds and loves her what would stop her from doing this to someone who means nothing to her??

There are some on here involved in training and have the hook ups on people who may be able to help, if you want post your city and maybe someone can give you a lead on who you can talk too. best of luck .
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has she only snapped at you that one time? I thought was at your hubby as well ?? if so what caused the reaction on the other incident. I would personally be very careful leaving your two dogs out alone when you aren't home or allowing them to sleep together at night, as you are already seeing the changes that have happened as she matured. We hear storys all the time , my dogs loved eachother and then we came home to find ...... or my dog never showed aggression to other dogs until the other day ..... and now my dog has to be put down.....
I would stop allowing her to play with other dogs at the park , the last thing you want is for her to get carried away and try and "bite " someone elses dog , Im pretty certain someone else wont find that amuzing in the least bit.

It's hard to say if she is just changing due to maturity since none of us here know her, this can very well be genetics and be something noone could have controlled or stopped from happening, this could also be due to the traumatic incident she just went through.
My advice would be to search for an EXPERIENCED trainer who can do temperment testing on her and see where she lays with all that, make sure they have experience with this breed as well.
This is my opinion and my opinion only and some will disagree but a dog who is redirecting at me , would be 6 feet under right now. that is the #1 thing i will NOT tolerate and it is NOT a characturistic of this breed.
I have a feeling this is not an option for you at this time until you have exhausted your options. So I offer this advice and hope you take it. Keep this dog very well contained, DO NOT let her off leash or around strangers freely. Just be the responsible owner here and make sure there are no accidents that we will see in the media where it shows the breed we love in the bad light yet again. If this dog has redirected on you the person who feeds and loves her what would stop her from doing this to someone who means nothing to her??

There are some on here involved in training and have the hook ups on people who may be able to help, if you want post your city and maybe someone can give you a lead on who you can talk too. best of luck .
Very well said.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Very well said! I cant agree more and I am willing to do all that and already am.. I always keep her on a leash and in control of her at all times. crate when I leave and avoiding the triggers at all possible.
she snapped at my hubby in the same instance with the Squirrel hunting. ever since we no longer SAY that word anymore to avoid the reaction from her.

I Live in Tulsa Oklahoma for those of you that may be able to tell me where to get her temperment tested.
thank you all for your input and I will put it all into play immediatly I just hope I can get her back to her normal self

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