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Old 05-12-2008, 07:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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So my nephew brought this magazine over yesterday, and it had a good article called "Pit Bull vs. Bully", and it was exactly what we always talk about with the differences between the two. So I just wanted to say that at least in that magazine they are attempting to separate the AmBully from the "pitbull". I just hope that all of their subscribers read it, and don't just look at the pictures, hahahahaha.

http://www.atomicdoggmagazine.com/ in case anyone's interested.
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Thanks for posting. We are always interested in a good read with good info and not just pictures ha! ha!.
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I have that mag so if anyone would like me to scan in the article and post I will be happy too.

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that would be really cool,i hope big boi isnt saying he has real apbts....
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Pitfall charges too much for the pups.$3000? Too rich for my blood.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
 

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i have one copy of the magazine my girlfriend bought me...

PitFall kennels don't even get me started on them! lol they over charge because of Big Boi being part of there family.... None of there bullies look good they are all shitty dogs to me... they use to breed a merle bully before he died that right shows you that you shouldn't mess with them....
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PitFall kennels don't even get me started on them! lol they over charge because of Big Boi being part of there family.... None of there bullies look good they are all shitty dogs to me... they use to breed a merle bully before he died that right shows you that you shouldn't mess with them....

I thought that the dogs looked funny. I remember seeing that merle dog on the website. He wasnt around too long,apparently. I wonder what Pitfall had to say about their own stock in the apbt vs abully article?
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Pitfall charges too much for the pups.$3000? Too rich for my blood.

supply and demand. james big boi's little brother co owns and runs pitfall. their facility is amazing and their dogs are treated VERY well. their kennel is clean and their dogs are better looking in real life. i twas told they were going to be all big and deformed, but when i actually went out there myself, i found out that was NOT the case. they actually know exactly what they are doing. he only charged me 800 bucks. they breed all kinds of dogs, and when they do it, they do it for specific purpose. here is my old boy pluto. A 50lb TRUE male pit, with more game drive then most could handle. he could have been a prize fighter, a pull champion, or a show champion no doubt. i know alot of people who show pits and they all advised me to stay away. when they saw my dog they were blown away by the fact that my dog was better than theirs. pluto was hard headed as hell, but sweet as pie. he was my favorite dog ever. he died chasing a motorcycle into the highway. he just turn 5 this year. i lost him in august. it was very difficult for me. he was as real as a pitbull gets.


pr pitfall's pluto's little helper he was off of dynamite and threat. they retired threat a few years ago. they take good care of their dogs and they care about where they go. don't hate the player, hate they game.


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Old 05-14-2008, 05:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
 

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supply and demand.]
If you breed just to satisfiy the demand you breed for the wrong reasons,thats why the breed or "type" as it has become is in so much trouble,the demand is seldom rashional, resonable or resposable in nature..
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their facility is amazing and their dogs are treated VERY well. their kennel is clean and their dogs are better looking in real life..
I believe it,theyve got a lot of $,there kennel is emaculant,as well as it should be,even though folks breeding dogs on a minimal wage and doing it just for the love of the breed have better stock,that dosent say much for them now does it...
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i was told they were going to be all big and deformed, but when i actually went out there myself, i found out that was NOT the case. they actually know exactly what they are doing...
Ya there breeding bully style dogs,providing no public pedigree accsess,they bred a merle bully dog,and bred a partial albino by the name of "polar bear",not really that on point...
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here is my old boy pluto. A 50lb TRUE male pit, with more game drive then most could handle. he could have been a prize fighter, a pull champion, or a show champion no doubt....
your dog was at least 50% amstaff,he was probably a great dog,but not game,not a fighting dog and not bred to be a working dog,probably had alot of heart but so do alot of english bulldogs..
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don't hate the player, hate they game. ....
Oh,i most definetly "AM' a hater,but in this case the dogs are just sub par"and not pure real apbts,nor are they working stock so id have to pass on them,jmo...
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As fara s the magazine goes, its great, i havea few of them they are awesome. But then again i like the bullys... so i know the breeders and the dogs and its nice to have a venue for us to share our dogs and interests.

as far as shitfall kennels... they suck. that merle dog kush is still on thier site i beleive, and so is the moronic slogan "home of the rare blue pit"
you couldne give me a dog from that kennel. from what i can tell they randomly combine York, Gaff, and Watchdog lines to produce what they are calling the pitfall line... of cource you cant tell as they dont tell you anything about pedigrees on the site... which is another red flag.

just a shoddy kennel that gets by because the owner is big boi's kin. Big boi himself has nothing to do with that kennel... might do better if he did though.
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Someone in my neighborhood supposedly has a Pitfall dog. He looks okay, I guess. I just think that with all their money, Pitfall could do SOMETHING with their dogs instead of leaning on OutKast's fame.I mean, what could it hurt? A few weight pulls here and there, OB competition, agility. These dogs dont even have a CGC certificate and you can get that at any Petsmart for $10.
Im sure they love their dogs as I love mine, but what do you get for 3g's
besides a blue pup? Pitfall prices have jumped from 600 to 8-900 to 3000 in the past 2 years. No work/show PARTICIPATION, let alone titles...what are you paying for? I have about .0035 of the income they have and I still found a way to CGC,weightpull, and show my last APBT. Not often , mind you LOL
but I did it.So can they. Man ,if I had their cash flow ,the things I would do.......
It leads me to believe that their dogs cant work or they are afraid to prove it.Maybe they just dont care about all that jazz;to each his own. I am not paying 3000 for ANY dog,even if I had Bill Gates money.
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i don't care man they're dogs aren't worth it to me they still look like shit but that's my opinion... i didn't even see any pedigree info and you should have that on your site...to me they are nothing special and not worth breeding at all....and i never ever hear anyone in the bull world praise them or talk good about them....
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If you breed just to satisfiy the demand you breed for the wrong reasons,thats why the breed or "type" as it has become is in so much trouble,the demand is seldom rashional, resonable or resposable in nature..
I believe it,theyve got a lot of $,there kennel is emaculant,as well as it should be,even though folks breeding dogs on a minimal wage and doing it just for the love of the breed have better stock,that dosent say much for them now does it...

Ya there breeding bully style dogs,providing no public pedigree accsess,they bred a merle bully dog,and bred a partial albino by the name of "polar bear",not really that on point...
your dog was at least 50% amstaff,he was probably a great dog,but not game,not a fighting dog and not bred to be a working dog,probably had alot of heart but so do alot of english bulldogs..

Oh,i most definetly "AM' a hater,but in this case the dogs are just sub par"and not pure real apbts,nor are they working stock so id have to pass on them,jmo...
i don't know what all the fus is about when someone can sell a dog for more. that's what all full time breeders attempt to do with their dogs. i would love to sell mine for 3500. james makes money but at the same time they ensure their dogs have good homes. he is on top of his facility and runs it better than any breeder i have met. it is a large scale operation, but at the same time not over done on any particular dog. yes they have money, but it comes from years of hard work. pitfall didn't just start yesterday and wasn't always what it was today. believe me the dog could have won in a show ring as apit this i know from people you know right here who have winning pits. what wins in a show ring is usually political and up to what the specific judge wants anyway. as far as game i have met few pits with his drive so i am not all together convinced he wouldn't have been able to work as good as any. that runs particular to the dog ESPECIALLY if it is mixed. threat was a game pit, dynamite was an am staff. that really doesn't mean anything. in this case i haven't known any particular dog that could match that could match his drive. either way he was only ever a fabulous, not over breed pitbull. this line was pitfall, not jeep, or whatever orginal gaming line you support. they aren't breeding anything but their own line. but while you are busy hating know that he is reading this because i sent him the link. you would be surprised to find that they know more about it than you think. pits, am staffs, bullys, who gives a rats ass. nobody is trying to deny that there is a difference in all of them. i don't understand why it seems like it is some bad thing or everyone is breeding poorly because their dogs look different than what you prefer. if you have a pronblem with people calling 120 bully pits, take it up with the ukc. just because they are registered as pits doesn't mean they are poorly bred. yes there are poorly bred dogs, but don't put them in that catigory until you have been over there and seen it yourself. and as for polar bear, my best friend had a bear pup and that was the best looking, tempered, and ripped dog i have ever seen. it is a crying shame that you guys would hate on that. ps bear is no longer at pitfall or i would have a pup coming right now.
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pitfall kennels doesnt even deserve to be called a kennel... i could go on as to why they should go out of business.

two reasons are first off they sell merle colored dogs calling them purebred but people dont often realize merle is a sign of a mixed breed and isnt a color pitbulls should have at all.

they pass off thier american bullies as american pitbull terriers....

oh and if 50 cent supposedly bought one of thier dogs well then that just says a lot about them lol. oh and some of thier dogs look crappy.
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Mr. Bleezy- you posted up a picture of the dog you said you got off of pitfall kennels... He looks good did you get him off two of the dogs posted on the web? because if you did then either they are stretching the images trying to make their dogs look big or they stuff them with food to make them look big because these dogs are Ambullies and they say there pits blah blah blah but what I'm saying is your boy looks good compared to those dogs and it makes me question there dogs...you know?
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