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Old 08-19-2013, 02:09 AM   #31 (permalink)
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i'm gonna learn how to take a picture and post it.
bully gal, i'm from nc also, and yes if they would've come over and talked to me and seen how i have my 16 dogs set up on chain set-ups, and wouldnt have it aby other way.

do the math, its just to easy, a 10'x10' kennel equals 100 sq ft.
a 10' chain set-up is diameter squared times pi

diamter sq= 10x10=100
times pi =3.14
100x3.14= 314sq ft

plus you can put your hands on your dogs everyday, and i dont think i let any of mine go to someone that kept them in a kennel 24/7
plus i think you'll get a 'soft' dog kept in a kennel as opposed to draggin some weight around, jazzersizing
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i'm gonna learn how to take a picture and post it.
bully gal, i'm from nc also, and yes if they would've come over and talked to me and seen how i have my 16 dogs set up on chain set-ups, and wouldnt have it aby other way.

do the math, its just to easy, a 10'x10' kennel equals 100 sq ft.
a 10' chain set-up is diameter squared times pi

diamter sq= 10x10=100
times pi =3.14
100x3.14= 314sq ft

plus you can put your hands on your dogs everyday, and i dont think i let any of mine go to someone that kept them in a kennel 24/7
plus i think you'll get a 'soft' dog kept in a kennel as opposed to draggin some weight around, jazzersizing


Eggfreakingzackly.............and then there is the factor that some of these dogs will flat out destroy kennel runs in short order , even high buck runs such as the magnum ones.

Over the years I've kept a lot of dogs on ground cable and chain setups , a 30 or 40 foot long ground cable with a 15 foot chain runner gives a dog a space 30 foot wide and thirty or forty feet long plus the overreach at each end from the runner chain , doghouse and water at one end , shade shelter and water at the other end. Yeah it takes some room but if you've got the room it's a good way to go.

And then there are of course the fools who use quicklinks on a chainrig instead of coldshuts , or who are dumb enough to use a bullsnap and wonder how their dog got off. Quality of swivels matters too , Icepick's husband used to make some real good ones , among other folks.
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.nah, thats what i was just mentioning to jtp, what you think are short cuts and cheaper,
dont turn out that way in the long run.

might cost us a little more, but we use all stainless hook-ups with trans-port chain
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i'm gonna learn how to take a picture and post it.
bully gal, i'm from nc also, and yes if they would've come over and talked to me and seen how i have my 16 dogs set up on chain set-ups, and wouldnt have it aby other way.

do the math, its just to easy, a 10'x10' kennel equals 100 sq ft.
a 10' chain set-up is diameter squared times pi

diamter sq= 10x10=100
times pi =3.14
100x3.14= 314sq ft

plus you can put your hands on your dogs everyday, and i dont think i let any of mine go to someone that kept them in a kennel 24/7
plus i think you'll get a 'soft' dog kept in a kennel as opposed to draggin some weight around, jazzersizing

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this is what I was talking about above with the roll bars. Interested in people's opinions if they think it would work. They claim it will "keep virtually any animal from climbing over a fence."

Dog Safety Fence - YouTube

this is an Ad for the product:
The Coyote Roller Promo - YouTube
Ive seen a similar product on a kennel assesories site. It had videos of a lab type dog jumping up and it did keep him contained.

Luckily(or unluckily depending on how you look at it) I live just far enough in town my only worries are coons, and opossums.
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I bet a coon would mess' with it till he could tight line it..
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I bet a coon would mess' with it till he could tight line it..
Guaranteed.

Its funny how "country" ppl around here can be. I was walking gage and got stopped amd asked a bunch of questions (you have dogs and had big omes you know how it is). This guy talked to me for about half an hour then asked me "well would he kill a coon or skunk? I got one around back that f***s with my trash. Think he'd kill it?" I started laughing. It reminded me of that vid of ur dog wrecking that coon.
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hahaha! yeh.. do that in town and its a LOT louder.

That raccoon was askin for it, big ol thing ended up weighin as much as Turk almost.
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This thread brightened my day.

I feel a little sorry for the OP moving out to the country and their being mean scary dogs and neighbors and no options but to pass them every time you leave the house.

To generalize here the only serious serious ahole dog owners I have come across are labrador type dogs or ankle biters. (There are exceptions, I know) A friend of mine breeds beautiful registered Rottis. His sire recently died, and he was looking for a new male that he like. While he was at work the other day, his neighbor's Labrador scaled his 7 foot yard fence and his 6 foot kennel run and knocked up his dam.

It's not just pits that have fence skills. lol (given the right motivation)

My suggestion to OP, I think you should definitely have a look a higher fence. Or keep your dogs indoors while you're not home.


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always.. crate the bitch in heat... or a complete kennel cage with wire top and cement or hard gravel bottom ...
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the funny thing is labs are basically rott x pit from the old world into one multi purpose working dog. ... .. Your not gonna see much difference in the pups. Maybe color scheme wash but the dogs themselves should be basically REALLY smart Rotties or REALLY mean labs LOL.
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hahaha! yeh.. do that in town and its a LOT louder.

That raccoon was askin for it, big ol thing ended up weighin as much as Turk almost.
How much did it weigh or better yet got a link? I was telling my buddy about it and he was very interested I just couldn't find the clip again.
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Check working dog Turk and Raccoon ... that dang thing slaugthered our ducks, and birds.. then started eatin our cats.. po tree'd his ass and I locked laika up at the bottom while I went up on the deck, letting po do what she does.. Po is half rottie and half APBT eli stuff. She was confiscated on an ACO case when drugs (meth) was found as they were smokin when the knock came to the door. THe rottie got shot, the prego apbt to the vet. where I step in took care of mom and pups placed mom and one pup. The other looked just like a rottie and she did in the sunlight you could see redish black where there should be brown. Everyone called her a lab mix.. LOL EVERYONE even the vet said if it wasn't for knowing he'd call it a lab mix. There ya go. Back to coon.. that thing gnareld a pup or two through the fence at night and I FINALLY got em.. 37lbs on that thing.. and turk was 37 maybe 38. Turk thought he was in trouble cause I was hurt and pissed off, from almost gettin bit trying to get laika unhooked so I could get her to work. At that point I just went and got turk. Turk has an ability to always remove the head thats how I found it was a coyote he ate on my porch when we woke up and not the neighbors husky. The head was about where he killed it I reckon just of the ravine.
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First thanks again for any advice to help me keep my dogs safe. I have read this blog and others and have a much better feel for the breed.

I now understand different approaches to confining dogs, and appreciate that chained dogs are safe and sound. But you missed the point, these dogs are chained 24/7. No dog should be without adequate exercise or some change of scenery. That is why I called them poor chained dogs. If they were stuck in a kennel 24/7 I would have said poor kenneled dogs! I have done dog rescue enough to see some very sweet dogs destroyed by some very stupid owners.

My request is how to set up my situation for success. North Carolina does not need more failures in dog management. Yes I assume there could be a problem, but am not calling pits "bad" It is clear from this and other blogs pit bulls are dog aggressive. My Pyrs bark a lot, are independent spirits, are couch potatoes, and will wander if not contained, and I would never expect to change that. But my pyrenees are not jumpers. One has only 3 legs, the other has hip dysplasia, and has had several operations on various joints. They are on leash at ALL times outside of the house and fence so I doubt my dogs will make it to the neighbors soon and I pray the neighbors dogs never make it over to mine. But in case they do-I will keep mine inside when I am not there and fortify my fence. I saw the fence rollers on the web site Bad Rap along with some good suggestions on fence issues. A hot wire on an angle and rollers should be a good start to keep ALL unwanted critters away. Do you think the patio bricks you get at Lowes that are 12x12 could be placed outside our fence to deter something digging under from outside the fence? Digging in chicken wire would be a huge job. My pyrs dig, but only in flower beds.

The walking will be hard. We don't go far due to our tripod but we do enjoy the walk. I live on the cup-de-sac and the only way out is past the house with the pit bulls. I am looking to find a way to go though some woods to the other part of the subdivision however. Thanks for the bear mace/pepper spray suggestion. Anyone know if you can use a Tazzer gun on a dog?I would not interfere with any dog minding their own business but yes the country if full of many unexpected encounters.

You are correct, I don't know the condition of the dogs at all, as I only saw one and he actually was a handsome fellow. I did not smell any BM, good point, but was not close enough to assess water and food supplies. I did count 8 dog houses in an area about 40 by 100 feet. I was only at the new house 3 days so do not have an adequate feel for their situation at all but have enough sense to be cautious. I know the neighbors say the dog owners are really nice people and the dogs were their kids-who are now all young adults with kids of their own, and have left. I heard the wife does not allow the dogs inside. The owners say only one dog bites (that is one too many!). I also know they recently had 4 puppies and they took them around to the neighbors for adoption with no takers. They kept 2 of the males. I hope they spay and neuter their dogs, but that is a different discussion! I intend to be neighborly and meet the owners and hope for the best but will also make sure I am doing all I can to protect my dogs from any stray dog. If I see these dogs do not have adequate food and water, or have reason to believe they are suffering due to constant confinement or lack of human contact, I will ask for suggestions for pit rescue contacts in my area to better assess things. Thanks again!
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just dont jump the gun, we've had them called on us before, 4 or 5 times but now they dont even come out any more, havent seen them in years,

plus in those 8 dogs, they are liable to have over $10,000.00 in those dogs

i'm sure they are well looked after.

if they have been there awhile, then its not they're dogs you should worry about.

i dont care if yours arent 'jumpers' if they get loose and wander, because you said they tend to wander, over to his yard,

you better hurry on over there and tell his dogs that yours aret 'jumpers' because i promise they do not know that, all they see is an intruder that they will dispose of.
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