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Old 09-13-2013, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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This has got to stop!

hey guys and gals well i'm in shock and very very angry about something that happened yesterday.
so heres what happened my moms friend has a son who not to long ago got a pitbull pup who he claim he loves with all his heart, about a week ago he got a new mattress but yesterday they let the pup alone while they went to a party, and the pup destroyed the mattress and when the guy got home he beat the dog and broke 3 of this ribs and his leg, now when my mother told me this i couldn't even see straight because of how angry i was.
Today we when to there house and the pup wasn't there he was at the vets, but i made it very clear that i was going to take the pup whether they liked it or not. before this i called the local shelter and asked for help and all they said that if it was a pitbull they couldn't take it and pretty much wouldn't do anything about it. i talked to a couple of friend who also own pitbulls and they said that they would help me any way they could.
now here's where the story get even more messed up, this kid claims that he already sold the pup to a group/gang that is very well know in my area for dog fighting. i swear i didn't beat this kid to a bloody mess because my mother was there and because the kid is 15.
now i have a couple of questions
1. the pup is about 5-7 months old, if i do/can adopt him will he show aggression later it life?
2. will he be able to trust humans after this?

thank you guys so much for your help and if i do adopt him i will make sure to keep you posted
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Both of your questions are pretty similar..

While it will depend on the individuality of the dog, the breed shouldn't show any agression towards humans, and you should find (in most cases) the dog will bounce back quite well from the attack of his owner being that it was a one time thing.

These dogs are unbelievable forgiving, and love humans.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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i am just so disgusted by what happened to this little guy, and thanks now my other question is how do i socialize him properly, from what my mother and the kids mother told me this dog hasn't been out much and is not socialized at all
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to the first questions you asked he may or may not . for example look at the dogs in the shelter most of them got there becuz of abuse and alot of them after being worked with become GREAT pets . but alot of them took alot of abuse so the needed more work .


socializing is tricky the way i socialize is i take them to a park where i know alot of ppl wont be. i walk them around as ppl walk by i see how they act if they look comfortable as ppl walk past them then i continue to walk if not back home we go . but if i think there good ill wait a little then have a friend come over they never meet introduce them slowly and let them play if that goes well introduce them to a pup but that as well needs to go slowly if that goes well do everything again and then when you feel comfortable take them to petsmart where you know they be getting attention then if that goes well you should be alright

but me telling you this ALWAYS make sure if your dog is comfortable in the situation if they're not it could go bad. if one step doesnt work do not go on to the next one just start over !
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thanks dynasty this sound good i'll make sure to do that
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these dogs shouldnt be human aggressive, you would actually be surprized how much they will endure for the affections of a human,

stuff like that makes my blood boil, makes me want to break 3 of his ribs,
and i dont care how old he is....................

and then i wish his piece of crap parent would come over and say something, i'd love to show him what time it is, for raising a kid like that,

then i might be cooled off a little.

dont know what you mean tho, they're known for fighting dogs?????????

if you know then the law knows too, steer clear of them.
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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WOW never ceases to amaze me the nerve people have when it is their own fault it happened to begin with. I lost so many things when letting Mel have freedom outside his crate, my own fault, and I am only talking about wiimotes and ps3 remotes. I cant blame my boy I was the idiot who left them out and didnt put them up when I left the house. People suck! As long as you treat the dog well I am sure he well learn to trust again.
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thank you all so much i'm a little more cool now but i still feel horrible not knowing what happened to the little pup!
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yeah they are known for the blood sport of dog fighting, and yeah of course the law knows but as long as they keep it on there property they can't/won't do anything about it, here in Mexico if the cop doesn't see you do something bad he cant do anything even if he's got witnesses
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thank you for getting my point! i mean how can you blame the dog if he was just being a dog! the sad part is that the dog is usually chained near the door but he wasn't this time and this is what happened!
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i know i'm very worried about the dog!
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Ugh right!!! damn a chain in the house?! i have no problems with proper chainsspots in yards to keep dogs safe and contained but in a house?! No wonder the dog was psyched for freedom and had no knowledge on what they could or couldn't do. So sad. Good for you man for stepping up! Are you able to get a crate until you have time to work on training manners?


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i know its horrible! i for one don't like to chain my dog because the way our house is built there is no way for a dog to escape so they are kept free while we're home, and if we're not home we just keep him outside or in the garage, but its okay cause our dog is very well behaved, anyways if we do get the pup (and i really hope we do!) he is going to be my mothers dog and live with her, she's got more space and since she isn't working she'll take care of him, yeah he can use my boxers old crate i just have to give it a good wash and it'll be ready to go

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Hell ames with a broke leg that pup is out of commission for awhile. Poor dog... im sure you kniw another 15 year old you could send off to whoop his ass. Hell I know a couple 15 year olds that would leave him in WAY worse condition than that poor pup.... course they wouldn't be pleaeed that no1 else involved hadn't put the fear of god in him... hope you actually get the pup and can give it a good life.
On a side note I thought dog fighting was legal (or laws not enforced) in mexico?
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yeah i do know a lot of people who could take care of him but i rather not i mean yeah i'm very angry and what he did but he'll pay for it sooner or later, Ames and were just talking about this not to long ago dog fighting is illegal here but the cops and everyone else just rather turn there heads the other way and not do anything about it.
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Thanks for answering that for me. Mexico has a lot of issues (drugs, gangs, cartels, political corruption, ect ect) that I can understand dog fighting taking a back seat to issues like that.

As far as the little bastard who hurt the dog we having a saying here "kick a mud puddle up your ass and stomp it dry". Thats just the beginning of what that sob needs...
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haha exactly man you totally get it and with the new president we got here people are more worried about the new taxes that come in every week rather than putting a stop to dog fighting, but that's were i and a lot of other people come in, we slowly but surely are taking the dog fighting world down with weapons that don't harm. knowledge is the key to winning this fight
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haha exactly man you totally get it and with the new president we got here people are more worried about the new taxes that come in every week rather than putting a stop to dog fighting, but that's were i and a lot of other people come in, we slowly but surely are taking the dog fighting world down with weapons that don't harm. knowledge is the key to winning this fight


Uh HUH. Sure you are. Lemme see here , millions of citizens/economic refugees still fleeing north , Ciudad Juarez still running over 5 ,000 murders a year , tons of blow daily still moving through the Playas , containers of weapons moving from ships in Cartegena and Barranquilla right on up through Guatemala etc right on into Mexico courtesy of the EPR and EPRI , the EZLN still operating............they will never pacify Oaxaca............the maquiladoras still going , about the most corrupt Army and Federal Police Force on the face of the earth that's constantly being bought by the various Cartels.

And a nation with a long history and tradition of cockfighting , bullfighting and dogfighting .

Sure you're gonna " wipe it out" , sure thing , just like ya wiped out that long trail of white powder that leads from Bolivia and Ecuador to the border.
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