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Old 10-20-2013, 04:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Indigo Bullies.

Pookie , Indigo Bullies is in Jakarta Indonesia. No snow in Indonesia. And they are "bullies".

Jacarta Kennels is completely different , Balkan and Ukranian dogs going back to Ch Thor , Snooty , some Six Bits and Ablizin ( Boyles) blood. Some stuff down through Ch. Yellow. Buncha stuff that goes back to the Country Boys out of Holland etc.etc. Take a look at the below for reference.

INDIGO BULLIES

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [280139] :: JACARTA KENNEL BRITNEY

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [264007] :: JACARTA KENNEL BULL SHIWA
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Ahh there we go! Thank you! So the claim of her being 1xW 1xLG B.I.S are probably legit..

I see the infamous Mr. Indian, isnt that the dog that was "being bred" for a ridiculous amount of years even though he was supposedly dead?
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I just found her very interesting because of her color lol

Very uncommon.
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Ahh there we go! Thank you! So the claim of her being 1xW 1xLG B.I.S are probably legit..

I see the infamous Mr. Indian, isnt that the dog that was "being bred" for a ridiculous amount of years even though he was supposedly dead?

From that area , yeah it's most likely legit , though I will say that there aren't a lot of marks on the dog. That said folks over there are hard on their dogs , stuff that makes it is often/usually pretty good.

And yeah you're right on the Mr. indian dog.
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Marks are hard to see on a dilute dog, especially one that light. Its not like a black dog or buckskin where they pop out and are super obvious.

I dont too much like anything I have heard about those Yacuza dogs, heard too much negative on the dogs temperaments as well as the person selling them. Ill stick with my home grown 'Murican stuff lol
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I found something interesting on that link. Well interesting to me lol. Feel free to enlighten me. They register their American Bullies through ABKC and UKC but they register their APBT through 2 separate registries? Why don't they register their APBT with UKC as well?


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Marks are hard to see on a dilute dog, especially one that light. Its not like a black dog or buckskin where they pop out and are super obvious.

I dont too much like anything I have heard about those Yacuza dogs, heard too much negative on the dogs temperaments as well as the person selling them. Ill stick with my home grown 'Murican stuff lol

We've all heard the same stuff , keep in mind though the cultural differences , these are hard people that are hard on dogs.They'll often keep taking a dog out until they finally get it killed.

Marks aren't THAT hard to see on a blue dog , especially one that is a G.I.S. dog. I'll see what I can dig up on the times and what she went into , though info from that region of the world can be spotty.

It does point up what I've often argued with folks about , there *are* blue dogs going in that competition , and not ALL Blues are automatically curs.
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I found something interesting on that link. Well interesting to me lol. Feel free to enlighten me. They register their American Bullies through ABKC and UKC but they register their APBT through 2 separate registries? Why don't they register their APBT with UKC as well?


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Good question , I can only guess at the answer. Might be that their APBT stock has been off the UKC books for too many generations to do so.
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Good question , I can only guess at the answer. Might be that their APBT stock has been off the UKC books for too many generations to do so.
Very possible. I'm assuming that their bullies are UKC reg as APBT since they only very recently accepted the bully. Kudos to them for correctly advertising. It's refreshing.


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We've all heard the same stuff , keep in mind though the cultural differences , these are hard people that are hard on dogs.They'll often keep taking a dog out until they finally get it killed.

Marks aren't THAT hard to see on a blue dog , especially one that is a G.I.S. dog. I'll see what I can dig up on the times and what she went into , though info from that region of the world can be spotty.

It does point up what I've often argued with folks about , there *are* blue dogs going in that competition , and not ALL Blues are automatically curs.
Thats why they are producing some amazing dogs out there, they are very hard on them.

This is true, and her being GIS youd think youd see something but I have no idea when that picture was taken either, Im just going on the fact that the blue dog I have has busted himself up a few times and you cant even tell but a few places that arent even easily seen. Id be grateful if you could find that, Ive been looking for a long time and no one seems to know who she is that Ive talked to.

Nope, people get too hung up on the bullies and forget there were and are dilute game dogs, just people arent breeding for the color at all so they dont show up very often and when the ones do show up the chances of them being something to write home about are slim lol, ever heard of (fishers) frontlines ch whiskey? She was as blue as blue could be, as well as part AmStaff and she was a bad bitch from what I have heard. A well respected dogman says she was the best he ever saw and he has seen and owned some amazing dogs.
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ever heard of (fishers) frontlines ch whiskey? She was as blue as blue could be, as well as part AmStaff and she was a bad bitch from what I have heard. A well respected dogman says she was the best he ever saw and he has seen and owned some amazing dogs.

Tripled up on Panther with a Ruffian/York out through a dead game dog known as Magnum Brute.

Folsk forget that there were some good ASts going up until the late '70s , there are still some folks around with Tacoma blood that's well worth feeding , though they keep a low profile because they register AKC and performance is a no-no with that registry.
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Ive heard that recently too, there are few breeders of AST in the states that have amazing dogs, not my cup of tea but its nice to know there are still some good stock out there for the serious fancier.
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....... you betcha!

and when you click on that indigo bullies link the dog under the kid on the left looks like a F2 (generation 2) APBT X Dane .. how bout you KM (if your lurking) ?? Sure the mutation could be there as well, the dog just looks danish.

.... Good thread~
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Looks like a long cropped Staff to me lol
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Looks like a long cropped Staff to me lol
He's listed on the males page...

FORBIDDEN'S EL DIABLO LOCO THE "BUZZ" LIGHTYEAR
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INDONESIAN ABKC SHOW 2012

1st PLACE MALE SENIOR, BEST MALE & BEST OF BREED @ 1st ABKC SHOW.

2nd PLACE MALE SENIOR @ 2nd ABKC SHOW

Bloodline: Big Perro's Perro / Blue Demon

Color: Fawn and White


If you scroll to the bottom of the males page, he's there, and the pic on the homepage is 2nd in the slideshow of pix of that dog.
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