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Old 03-07-2009, 11:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"How do you pick an owner for your pup?"

Now that we've seen posts on how people pick out a pup from a litter, I'd like to see how you all evaluate a potential owner for your dog as the survival of our dogs may hinge upon correct placement of them by each and every breeder, rescue, etc. No one wants to see a story on how a pitbull at large did......fill in the blank OR the pitbull's owner was arrested for.....fill in the blank. How do you size up the person you are placing your dog with, do you have different requirements of people taking a puppy versus an older dog, etc.

I challenge each person who posts to also say whether they would place a dog with someone who was just like themselves when they got their first pitbull (i.e. could the person that they themselves were when they got their first pitbull have held up to the standards they require of people they place their dogs with now).
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The homing dilemma is one reason I won't breed dogs. I have had to home pups before and got burned.
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I'll take this one. The first question that needs to be asked is "Have you ever owned a pit bull?" This is important because if not, there is alot of things that need to be brought up. I'm not saying that I'd completely shut someone down for not ever owning the breed - everyone's gotta start somewhere, right? - but since there is such a stigma with this breed, those that are naive can further contribute to the demise. In our particular case, we're striving for working dogs, so if a prospective home is not willing to put forth the effort and time required, then they've come to the wrong place. It's difficult to size up people through an email, even a phone call, for that matter. Just because they may talk a big game, doesn't mean they will be a responsible owner. This is the main reason that our breedings are few and far between - if there isn't a reason for the breeding besides just having pups, then why do it?

Ok, next one: Here it is: NO. I wouldn't have placed a pit bull with myself at that time. I was completely uneducated at the time we got our first pit bull. I wanted Jax because he was adorable and I had been around bully breeds for quite some time. I was hardly qualified. We wanted a puppy to go with our new life together, just like so many people do. What happened in our case, fortunately, is that we fell in love almost immediately. Obviously, with the puppy, but moreso, we wanted to learn everything that there was to know about this amazing breed.I believe that you can never learn enough and we still continue to each day. We now have 9 pit bulls and still learn from them every day.
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I challenge each person who posts to also say whether they would place a dog with someone who was just like themselves when they got their first pitbull .
Yes I would, however I would be there to make sure this person was properly educated on these dogs and not just left with a pit as I was. Everyone has to start somewhere.

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Now that we've seen posts on how people pick out a pup from a litter, I'd like to see how you all evaluate a potential owner for your dog as the survival of our dogs may hinge upon correct placement of them by each and every breeder, rescue, etc. No one wants to see a story on how a pitbull at large did......fill in the blank OR the pitbull's owner was arrested for.....fill in the blank. How do you size up the person you are placing your dog with, do you have different requirements of people taking a puppy versus an older dog, etc.
I am very big on first impressions. I think you can tell a lot about people just by a good hour of "dog talk"

I ask people what dogs they have had before and what happened with those dogs. I myself am very understanding that occasionally $hit happens even though you are a good person because I have had my fair share.

I don't really have a play by play its all about the feeling and vibes I get from a person.

Laura for a great example ( Mrs. APBT America) came to get a free blue female on a spay contract. She was not a puppy I bred by was out of and accident litter with dogs I formerly owned and still held papers on. I had put up an ad for the puppy and was contacted by several people and even had people coming to meet her,( of course free blue female) then I got lauras EMAILS!lol She emailed me about the puppy, then about her, then about her lifestlye and everything she could think of that would make me feel secure about meeting her about this puppy. Well I told the other people they would have to wait and met with Laura first. Within an hour of meeting her and talking with her I knew she was perfect! I sent Neveah off with her 2 towns away and trusted that she would spay her. I never even did a contract with her. Just me meeting her and talking to her and seeing her interact with my dogs I can see the kind of person she is.


However this can't just work with everyone. I have been in customer service since I was 13 so I really know how to read people so It works for me.

The only mistakes with homing I have ever made where with homing dogs with family in law when I knew better but didn't want to offend family. It came back to bite me in the face.

I ask the people what their intentions are for the dog.
Have they owned this breed before.
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I find out what these people know about the breed.

Usually my puppies are spoken for every early. This gives me way more time to get to know these people.

We had a guy named Gus come to pick out 2 males. He picked out his pups at 3 weeks old and then 2 times a week came for an hour or 2 to visit with them and us. The lived about 1 hour from us but still made the trip just to come play with his puppies till they where 8 weeks old.


I have sent off very few dogs to people I didn't already know ( small town and I am just about the only one with quality dogs). Most people meet me way before I have a litter. They see me walking one of my dogs and the conversation begins.

Course I have had 15 puppies in almost 10 years so I don't often get to pick owners lol..


I don't think I answered this very well lol but I don't really have a code I go by just feeling.
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll never be a breeder because of this ... I'd keep every puppy! LOL

To answer your question I wouldn't have placed a puppy with myself pre pit bull education. My breeder is very kind person he took the time to give me a Richard Stratton book. This is the apbt. He talked with me about the breed, the qualities, the tools of the trade... Parting sticks, spring and flirt poles, explained BYBing to me and how it's wrong. He even told me to check out gamedog.com but I like GP better less hate here LOL. I feel very fortunate to be learning from everyone here and also helping when I can. Educating people you sell puppy to and picking the right person is so important. Makes me think of the OFK thread "talked someone out of one of my dogs" ... Pit bulls aren't for everyone and as owners of these dogs and protectors of the breed its our responsibilty to educate and "regulate" when we can.

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i second that Dan.

my husband says we could never breed because he knows we would not give up 1 damn puppy we would end up with too many dogs.
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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now getting involved in a breeding project and keeping the pick of the litter is different LOL still... So much testing and expense is involved.
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
 

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I don't have much to put in on this thread cause everything I would do is already posted and no I would have not have to myself at that time but then again my first pup wasn't from a breeder it was from family in law lol. Now Nate grew up around these dogs. One thing I am really big on is not selling show and pull dogs to people that have no desire to pertiscapate. Now of coarse there are times that you have pet quality dogs and these would be homed with people that I trusted and know alittle bit about. I no longer sell dogs to the public and I no longer sell dogs to people that have never had this breed. In my eyes there is enough of that going on so I don't have to contribute to it. Everyone makes mistakes with their first pit bull and I don't want one of my dogs to be a statisic so I feel if you don't know the person or the person is not in it for show reasons. I am sorry but I can't sell them one at this day in time with things the way they are. This is just my personal preference for I have made mistakes on chosing owners and ended up with my pups back in bad condition. That was not my happiest day to have to go and take my pups back. I have always had contracts for protections. and it is true when you get a funny feeling and feel hestiate about a person looking to buy a dog 95% of the time it was a bad choice and something happens.
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great topic

I am so happy to have joine "gp" right now and to see this thread. My female "Myka" had her first litter 13 pups. We were expecting 10. We are a little lucky in the fact that a few of our lifelong friends who have been around my 2 and helped care for them while we were on vacation have decided that they are ready for the commitment and have been getting ready for a few years.
You see when I got my first I was only slightly educated about the breed. I have a friend who I grew up with that had them and I was always around them, but you are never really prepard for your first.

With that being said I am glad to see I am not on my own with worries of what will happen to my puppies that we will have to find what we believe to be responsible owners. I am ver interested in the contract that has been talked about, so if anyone can send me further info on this it would be great. I also believe in gut feelings and have already walked away from 3 potential buyers. I am taking and checking refferences. I am going to include with my pups the pitbull handbook and the pitbull terrier report both written by Jason Mann. Hoping this will help the new owners out. I will also reccomend this site as well.
If anyone has any further suggestions please let me know. It will be appreciated!!!

Also I probably would not have placed a pup with me when I got my male, I was undereducated, and a bit naive about the breed. I learn more everyday and got very lucky with my 2. They teach me more everday, and love me and my family more than anyone can ever imagine.

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I have a questionaire that must be filled out for those that are first time owners I also send with them material on training, proper confinement etc for first time owners. I am very strict about people staying in touch and over the years have included that in my contract as a requirement. I usually insist first time owners co-own their pup with me so that I can monitor them more and be there for any questions/concerns or problems. I had several mentors starting out some of even different breeds and I believe in helping folks as much as possible. This not only benefits me and my productions but also the breed, I don't limit my help to those that own my pups either. I will help any one who ask....
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hey do you think you should post the questionaire for others to see and use on other people who they would comsider adopting their dogs out to ?

i belive in contracts with proof of photo id and current address.(been burned bad) puppy contracts which is what the breeder did with me when i got my pup, i am required to send updates atleast once a month including photos and
if anything medically is going on with her.if i have any questions i am to contact him. he is excited that i want to show her and get her into weight pull (if we ever stay in one place long enough)
she is not my first pitbull but he did interview me for almost 3 hrs(it was fun i hate to say it but i knew more then he did about little puppys)
when it came to my firstpitbull which was over 5 yrs ago he was a pitbull boxer mix , he taught me alot but sadly i left him with someone when i went to travel and they took off with him.
i was young and dumb when i got him so no i shouldnt have been able to adopt him i wasnt ready for the responsibility/training involved with a puppy.
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im way to pickey to even think of placing a dog, if i did i would need a background check, contract poof of them having a stable job... things like that
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First and Last Name: Phone: E-Mail Address: Pups purpose such as pet, breeding or show: Male or female: color you prefer: Vet's name and address: How much experience do you have with the breed:

Those are the initial questions which those that generally don't make the cut usually leave out info on the purpose of the pup or the vet information and I do require either a ver reference, meet in person or two references. something else that throws me into severe grill mode is if they want a blue pup or female (anyone wanting these two I ask a ton of questions and go into my lack of pigment spill, the importance of spaying etc etc).
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Waiting List form
First and Last Name: Phone: E-Mail Address: Pups purpose such as pet, breeding or show: Male or female: color you prefer: Vet's name and address: How much experience do you have with the breed:

Those are the initial questions which those that generally don't make the cut usually leave out info on the purpose of the pup or the vet information and I do require either a ver reference, meet in person or two references. something else that throws me into severe grill mode is if they want a blue pup or female (anyone wanting these two I ask a ton of questions and go into my lack of pigment spill, the importance of spaying etc etc).
BTW I also require a picture id as well or at least the dl number and I do trace it to ensure I was not given a fake!
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