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Old 08-12-2010, 01:54 PM   #181 (permalink)
 

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zeus (my parents amstaff) while having very little to no DA still had/has plenty of drive and energy many a rodent or wandering feral cat met their demise in my parents back yard (regardless of the 6ft. privacy fence) and it is not a small area their is 1 acre fenced in in the back. as for being energetic, at 12 years old i can still get him to play until i take the ball or tug rope (gotta watch the old mans teeth ) away. heck he even caught a rabbit last week. great dog high prey drive, tons of energy no propble ever with DA but he is a "show" bread dog off of ch. bearfoot's souix city scout.
Well that could be just about any dog.My chow chow I had growing up used to do all that too.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:58 PM   #183 (permalink)
 

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I don't know how many people have fish here, but it's making me giggle.
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For these reasons right here j-crash.And also people want the original and truest form of a breed of dog that they love.If you say you (not you personally,people in general) love a apbt but don't love what all goes along with it.Then you don't love a apbt.
Like has been said before a apbt is not for everyon.If you want like the way they look but don't like what all goes along with owning one,then they are not the breed for you.There are several others breeds that would suffice for these people.
When I first came to this site I didn't know a apbt from a bully.I thought they were one in the same.Since being here and learning I have come to love the apbt in it's truest form and everything that these dogs represent.ANd if I have to be more responsible and deal with DA to have them,well then that's just the price I'm willing to pay.
well then i guess i don't

and as far as the DA i'm not. that is why i said i appreciate the dog, but have absolutely NO NEED for a highly DA dog! and i still don't understand why anyone else does.
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well then i guess i don't

and as far as the DA i'm not. that is why i said i appreciate the dog, but have absolutely NO NEED for a highly DA dog! and i still don't understand why anyone else does.
It's about owning the purest form of that breed.In any breed of dog you get,wouldn't you want the original,truest,purest form of that breed and not some washed down version of it?
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This is off topic but am I the only one laughing when you say

ICK and Stalefish?

I don't know how many people have fish here, but it's making me giggle.
i was just about to explain to you that "stalefish" is a skateboard move... then i realized you meant "ICK" as in Ichthyophthirius multifiliis... white spots

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It's about owning the purest form of that breed.In any breed of dog you get,wouldn't you want the original,truest,purest form of that breed and not some washed down version of it?
no... absolutely not! not if it was DA! i don't care how "pure" in form the dog is if its DA it will be a pita for me and that is not something it want to deal with AT ALL!!!
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no... absolutely not! not if it was DA! i don't care how "pure" in form the dog is if its DA it will be a pita for me and that is not something it want to deal with AT ALL!!!
Well then I hate to tell you that even owning a bully,you're not in the clear of DA.Bullies come from pits as well as a few other breeds that are in some form DA.So just because he's not DA now doesn't mean he'll stay that way.
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Well then I hate to tell you that even owning a bully,you're not in the clear of DA.Bullies come from pits as well as a few other breeds that are in some form DA.So just because he's not DA now doesn't mean he'll stay that way.
i don't have a problem with that just about any dog could be DA my girlfriends 6 pound yorkie is the worst DA dog i have ever seen. right now harry is fine around other dogs and is socialized often. if DA becomes a problem however he will be gone (pts) just like any other dog i would own, because im NOT dealing with it.
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i don't have a problem with that just about any dog could be DA my girlfriends 6 pound yorkie is the worst DA dog i have ever seen. right now harry is fine around other dogs and is socialized often. if DA becomes a problem however he will be gone (pts) just like any other dog i would own, because im NOT dealing with it.
Then why did you get this kind of dog if it's not something you're willing to deal with.So you would pts your dog for acting like a dog?You just said yourself that just about any dog can be DA.Why didn't you get a cat instead?
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Then why did you get this kind of dog if it's not something you're willing to deal with.So you would pts your dog for acting like a dog?You just said yourself that just about any dog can be DA.Why didn't you get a cat instead?
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Then why did you get this kind of dog if it's not something you're willing to deal with.So you would pts your dog for acting like a dog?You just said yourself that just about any dog can be DA.Why didn't you get a cat instead?
thats not acting like a dog. thats acting like something that someone bred into a dog, and if the dog can still be high energy and be active with me (or lounge on the couch with me) thats fine. i personally don't want a DA dog, if you do then thats fine, thats what is great about this country (at least my part of it) its just something else you have to worry about though, and its not something that i want to worry about.
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IDK, DA isn't something that i LOVE, but it is not something I couldn't work with. It's just part of the package. Personally, for me.. dog aggression isn't something that i would breed FOR, but I wouldn't rule out a dang good representative of what I want to accomplish with my animals program because it was dog aggressive. I may sound retarded for it and I may be wrong, but IMO, DA is a drive for these dogs.

One way I have made dog aggression work for me (I know it's not conventional, and IDK if it's the right thing to do, but it's what worked for me), and with Peggy. She lost interest in her flirt pole after I put it away for a few months... that interest in the flirt pole is prey drive... I got cree out who is not dog aggressive, but is extremely driven for the pole. I had doug hold peggy on a leash and harness while I played the flirt pole with cree just out of reach of peggy. Peggy got so fired up watching cree, I removed cree from the equasion, and peggy was right back to her old self, a diehard for the flirt pole.

Like it was said before, dog aggression dogs not equal gameness.

EDIT: I hate to break the news to anyone, but these bulldogs are not supposed to be pets that you can take on doggy outings to play with other animals. They have been bred for hundreds of years with a purpose behind every breeding. Not until the last 40ish years or so for the vast majority of the population has the change in needs for these animals. You cannot undo centuries in only a half a century. Also, why would you want to?
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thats not acting like a dog. thats acting like something that someone bred into a dog, and if the dog can still be high energy and be active with me (or lounge on the couch with me) thats fine. i personally don't want a DA dog, if you do then thats fine, thats what is great about this country (at least my part of it) its just something else you have to worry about though, and its not something that i want to worry about.
I am sorry J-crash if you are willing to put down a dog especially one that has APBT backround in it (ie the Bully) then you are no different IMO then the senseless BYBing that contributes to the hundreds of "pit bulls" getting killed each year in shelters. If you are never willing to deal with the fact that ANY breed of dog can develop DA especially any form of this breed then you do not need to own a dog.

I watch dogs die daily because people get them and love them when they are cute and cuddly but as soon as a problem arises rather than dealing with the LIFELONG COMMITMENT they made to that animal they instead take it to a shelter where people like me have to kill it after 72 hours because it does not get adopted...

All of your comments are a real shame and disappointment to me personally... RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR DOG FOR ITS ENTIRE LIFE is something you should consider with any dog you have or plan on getting...
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it just makes sense to me that they would just join in with whopper, giant, mammoth, lines as they are all bandogs, I think the American Bullmastiff or American Pit BullMastiff or American Bandog has a great ring to it I also think American Game Dog has a ring or Original Game Bred Bulldogs(OG Bulldogs hahaha) LOL I think everyone knows what a APBT is or should be. Something needs to happen to diverge the dogs in identity, maybe they should be introduced into the working dog group

What he's wanting to do, he would have to keep his favorite gyp and get rid of the other dogs and start finding gamebred dogs to choose a great stud from like a proven dog and then take the daughter back to the proven dog and then take that and double back... That is how you will washout characteristics and eventually you can get far enough away through the game dogs to double back to the gyp and line it out kinda like they did them honeybunch litters... BUT unlike honeybunch, they are STILL bandogs.. Unless I guess you send a dog OTC to be proven, then I guess you would be Proven...
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Should there be a distinction put forth on the difference between the style of dogs that I breed and say, a dog that stems from lines like Sorrels, Colby, Mayday, etc? Absolutely. They are not the same dog, I am not trying to say that there is ZERO difference between the two, that would be idiotic.

If the UKC would wake up and realize that they could actually make MORE money by instituting a new breed - American Giant Bulldog, American Giant PitBull, or whatever - then there are plenty of us who would gladly move away from the stigma associated with the current breed name. Why would I be one of the first ones to do it? Because the American general public is so naive that when people ask what kind of dog I'm walking, and I say "It's an AmStaff" the reaction is completely different than when I say "It's a Pitbull". I take my dogs to dog parks, have for years. I keep my dogs together as a pack, males and females, again have for years.

My point is that my dogs are contain more genetics and blood from that stem from APBT's & AmStaff's than any other breed. The pre-dominant blood running through their veins is APBT/AmStaff, thus this is what I call them. They're not bandogges, no matter how you try to argue it. Someone already referenced John Swindle, he is the only breeder I've ever found that has true consistency in his bandogges. To me, bandogge is nothing more than a slop together of random breeds that cannot reproduce any semblance of consistency. There is a consistency to my dogs, being that they all stem in one way or another from the same dog (Iron Tyson) and the more I breed, the more consistent that gets.

As for what you said about "keep his favorite gyp and get rid of the other dogs and start finding gamebred dogs to choose a great stud from like a proven dog"....I am doing exactly that, except in the reverse. I am picking up a female from a pure OFRN stud and a UKC CH female, with long, long, long lines of UKC CH dogs behind her. The breeder I'm getting her from has been breeding APBT's and turning them into UKC CH for longer than I have been alive. My point to this? I'm going to run this pure bitch into 2 or 3 of my studs, then line-breed them back to one another making her blood the dominant blood in the line. Is it "pure" by your standards? No. Will I have the most "pure" line of XL dogs out? Damn near.

My only question though - with your last statement, you're basically saying that if I had one of my dogs "proven" - then you'd consider it an APBT?
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