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Old 08-04-2010, 06:28 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Hard not to consider them a "crap registry" when they let this kind of crap go on and on.
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:15 PM   #62 (permalink)
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their picture is that of a bunch of pigs tagged as pit bulls.
not A fan of bullies,where I come from anything over 60# on purpose is a waste and serves no purpose other that to be sat next to the escalade,with the owner ganged down in flash and bling,with A "LOOK AT ME" tattoo across their forehead.
every time I see one it's not with the nice mommy and her stroller or granny out for A walk.it's always with someone portrayin the gangster clown on the other end od the leash.
and them 3 guys,deff clownsta's.
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For those that are interested...

Iron Cross was banned because a DNA challenge was filed on a litter that was registered to Roman Vaughn, owner of Iron Cross Kennels. The DNA challenge proved that the sire he listed on the paperwork was not the actual sire of the litter.

It had nothing to do with the UKC questioning whether their dogs lineage were "true" or not.

I know this for fact, because I filed the DNA challenge. And I may be filing another one very soon.

Also, for those who want to bash on all "XL Bully Breeders" - note that some of us are very up front about the fact that there was mixing that went on in pretty much every bloodline that is considered XL or XXL at some point. There are those of us who are willing to admit what WAS done, and are trying to move forward and bring the look back to the dogs, rather than continue the problem and breed more bandogges into our blood....to that point, I say this - one of the first APBT's I ever owned was a 42lb red/rednose game bred rescue. One of the best dogs I ever owned. I know full well what a true APBT is. And I love everything about them. But I wanted them on a larger frame, without sacrificing the movement, agility, drive, or attitude of the true APBT...I certainly have not yet perfected my vision, but I am working on it.

Oh, and if you don't believe my dogs can move, check my YouTube - Search 'lionsgatekennels'.
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Iron Cross was banned because a DNA challenge was filed on a litter that was registered to Roman Vaughn, owner of Iron Cross Kennels. The DNA challenge proved that the sire he listed on the paperwork was not the actual sire of the litter.

It had nothing to do with the UKC questioning whether their dogs lineage were "true" or not.

I know this for fact, because I filed the DNA challenge. And I may be filing another one very soon.

Also, for those who want to bash on all "XL Bully Breeders" - note that some of us are very up front about the fact that there was mixing that went on in pretty much every bloodline that is considered XL or XXL at some point. There are those of us who are willing to admit what WAS done, and are trying to move forward and bring the look back to the dogs, rather than continue the problem and breed more bandogges into our blood....to that point, I say this - one of the first APBT's I ever owned was a 42lb red/rednose game bred rescue. One of the best dogs I ever owned. I know full well what a true APBT is. And I love everything about them. But I wanted them on a larger frame, without sacrificing the movement, agility, drive, or attitude of the true APBT...I certainly have not yet perfected my vision, but I am working on it.

Oh, and if you don't believe my dogs can move, check my YouTube - Search 'lionsgatekennels'.
That's all fine and dandy, buy you're no different than the rest of the XXL peddlers. First off your "Kennel" is based on mutts from ICK. You've also admitted that there was mixing of breeds in you desired dog, but you're still advertising your mixed breed XXL Bully’s as Pit Bulls!! THEY ARE NOT PIT BULLS!!! You are selling AmBullies a yet unstandardized dog in my Opinion! No I don't hate Bullies I just Hate when they are sold as Pit Bulls.

P.S. Your dogs might move, but the question is "How Long can they Move for?"

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Old 08-07-2010, 06:46 AM   #65 (permalink)
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For those that are interested...

Iron Cross was banned because a DNA challenge was filed on a litter that was registered to Roman Vaughn, owner of Iron Cross Kennels. The DNA challenge proved that the sire he listed on the paperwork was not the actual sire of the litter.

It had nothing to do with the UKC questioning whether their dogs lineage were "true" or not.

I know this for fact, because I filed the DNA challenge. And I may be filing another one very soon.

Also, for those who want to bash on all "XL Bully Breeders" - note that some of us are very up front about the fact that there was mixing that went on in pretty much every bloodline that is considered XL or XXL at some point. There are those of us who are willing to admit what WAS done, and are trying to move forward and bring the look back to the dogs, rather than continue the problem and breed more bandogges into our blood....to that point, I say this - one of the first APBT's I ever owned was a 42lb red/rednose game bred rescue. One of the best dogs I ever owned. I know full well what a true APBT is. And I love everything about them. But I wanted them on a larger frame, without sacrificing the movement, agility, drive, or attitude of the true APBT...I certainly have not yet perfected my vision, but I am working on it.

Oh, and if you don't believe my dogs can move, check my YouTube - Search 'lionsgatekennels'.

So, what are you going to call them when you get it perfected? and how do you feel about the UKC not questioning the purity of these dogs?
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And I do think that they advertise their dogs as xl pitbulls,not xl bullies.Not hating,just making a comment
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i forgot to post about this when i first heard about it. did anyone else hear anything about this?
All American Bullies are mixed a breed.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:27 PM   #68 (permalink)
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no, they're not
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But what determines a mutt? How many generations of pedigree from an organization like UKC, APBT, ADBA or others does it require before it's no longer a mutt?
It does not matter how many.
It will always be a mutt.
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no, they're not
A pure bred Bully is mixed bred American Pit Bull TERRIER.

If it is not a Terrier, it is not an APBT.
The American Bully is not a Terrier. It can not swim with seals and do all of the things a pure bred Bull Dog can do.

The American Bully in NOT A PIT BULL, its an American Bully.
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I know my dogs are not mutts so if mine aren't it MUST mean there are some people out there who did not get swindled...
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until you do the countless hours of research on my dogs personal pedigrees, be hands on with my dogs... i would reccomend you to keep your lips shut about this assumption.

Never called my dogs pit bulls because they have that heavy am staff influence.
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The ABKC needs to follow suite and pull all papers and not allow any more dogs to be registered with that kennel in the ped. I'll be very disappointed in them if they do not.
What?
Isn't that an American Bully Registry?
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I appologise for being snippy about this...we've just had a surplus of bashing goin on recently and I've been pretty irritated about it... if you have already got bent with me before i post this, i understand.

For me, I have been working with bullies for the last 7 years and I chose my dogs based off of what the dogs original foundation... what they were, not what they have become. I still call my dogs Bullies because of the bloodline alone, but my dogs are like a joke walking into these bully shows.
My dogs can move, my dogs have zero excess in weight, and they are all porportionate...well, maybe their heads are on the large side lol...


all of my dogs are 18 inches in height
My male is only 50 pounds
my eldest female is 48
one of the newest girls is 43
and the other girl is 50

I don't force my dogs to become something that they are not buy doing everything in my power to add mass because for me, it's not necessary. I chose my dogs because they would excell in the UKC show ring and are less driven than a real APBT which would not fit in my life style at this time. My dogs are dog aggressive like an apbt, but just less work.
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yeah, it is a bully registry, but in order to have ABKC paper work you must have UKC (or another reputable registry) paper work to send in, kinda like how ADBA dogs were able to go UKC and vise versa. From what I understand the ABKC was not created to give papers away to everyone, just to acknowlege what the breed transitioned to not to slap papers on dogs with bogus history.
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