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Old 02-24-2009, 12:18 AM   #31 (permalink)
 

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thats pretty cool actually that you keep track of things like that. i wish i had a setup like that
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thats pretty cool actually that you keep track of things like that. i wish i had a setup like that
Do you have Microsoft Excel? I can email you the file, and then you can simply plug in your numbers.
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dang!i dont have a product key my husband sent me this computer i have to wait til he gets home see if he has one.
excel told me without the product key i can only use it 25 times is there anyway around that?

that would be so cool to do with everything. i could better manage our monthly budget!
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:06 AM   #34 (permalink)
 

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I have also read that too much protein is not good, for any dog, puppy or adult, unless they get enough exercise to burn it up. That is why I use Innova. The protein percentage is around the 24% range, and that is because I don't work my dog that much. If I was into working him alot, then I'd go with Evo or Orijen, since those are in the 40% range.

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you are right about too much protein... but the reason i chose orijen is because kenya is a working dog. we do alot every day that burns off the extra. sure, she isnt pulling weight, but she is very active with shutz and training going along with the pd, and everyday runs, and weekend hikes. would love to pick up a slat/carpet mill to get her really going but for now, she is burning it off quiet well.

BUT.. going back to "grain free being bad"... im still waiting for rico.......
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you are right about too much protein... but the reason i chose orijen is because kenya is a working dog. we do alot every day that burns off the extra. sure, she isnt pulling weight, but she is very active with shutz and training going along with the pd, and everyday runs, and weekend hikes. would love to pick up a slat/carpet mill to get her really going but for now, she is burning it off quiet well.

BUT.. going back to "grain free being bad"... im still waiting for rico.......

Relax...lol Just got home from a double with my PD and they working me like a dog.... Maybe you misunderstood me I am not saying our breed is considered a large breed I am saying depending on your dog needs which is exaclty what you just said.. A high protein food is not for the avg puppy and you agreed but you feed yours EVO cause he is a working dog.. Now any Vet will tell you high protein food is not good for a puppy but it depends on your dog.. Even with my Lab he is really not considered a large or giant breed and he was raised on Large breed puppy food he is super fit he weighs 100lbs and is very muscular not fat and he is 11 yrs old now and peole still think he is 5 or 6 yrs old.. Like I said my info came from a family friend who is a Holistic Vet aswell as if you call Innova they have nutritionists you can speak to which I did before I switched to Innova and they do suggest there Large Breed Formula for a APBT that will be above 70lb..

Also please tell me where i said GRAIN FREE FOOD IS BAD!!!!! In my first post I suggested EVO, Welness Core as two great choices for food they are both GRAIN FREE.... So I dont understand why you think I said Grain Free is BAD???

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dang!i dont have a product key my husband sent me this computer i have to wait til he gets home see if he has one.
excel told me without the product key i can only use it 25 times is there anyway around that?

that would be so cool to do with everything. i could better manage our monthly budget!
Unfortunately, I don't think so. Unless you have an Office 2000 cd, and it is compatible on Vista (I'm assuming you have Vista) If you have XP, then try and find Office 2000, which you can probably find the product key alot easier, and no need for online registration.
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Old 02-24-2009, 05:47 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I have also read that too much protein is not good, for any dog, puppy or adult, unless they get enough exercise to burn it up. That is why I use Innova. The protein percentage is around the 24% range, and that is because I don't work my dog that much. If I was into working him alot, then I'd go with Evo or Orijen, since those are in the 40% range.

As far as how much the bag lasts, with Innova Adult I would say it lasts me 1 1/2 months. I'm currently feeding my boy 4 cups a day, and I bought this bag on 01/30/09.

Here's a tally of what I have spent and fed, and which type of food.



The above numbers averaged out makes my cost: $30.90 per month. However, if you only count the Innova for the previous 3 months, my cost is: $50.14 per month.

**All prices are with tax included And yes I know, I'm a Nerd.
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Old 02-24-2009, 05:59 AM   #38 (permalink)
 

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Also please tell me where i said GRAIN FREE FOOD IS BAD!!!!! In my first post I suggested EVO, Welness Core as two great choices for food they are both GRAIN FREE.... So I dont understand why you think I said Grain Free is BAD???
"Its really about the grain free foods that are not good for puppies they just dont have all the nutrients a growing puppy needs."

Like I said my info came from a family friend who is a Holistic Vet aswell as if you call Innova they have nutritionists you can speak to which I did before I switched to Innova and they do suggest there Large Breed Formula for a APBT that will be above 70lb..
idk, i think being grain free is a better choice for k9s just becuz thats how they would eat if they werent domesticated. BUT high protien ISNT for every dog. just depends of ur lifestyle and how u incorporate a high protien diet with your dog.

also, APBTs arent meant to be 70lbs. If your talking Ambully, i see the confusion to feed large breed. looks like alot of people that own ambullies try to play it off that they own a large breed dog. which in reality they own a heavy dog.

also for labs (took this right off the ukc website)
Standard height for mature males is 22 to 24 inches and for mature females, 21 to 23 inches. A correctly built Labrador Retriever male in working condition should weigh between 65 and 80 pounds and a female should weigh between 55 and 70 pounds.

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The American Pit Bull Terrier must be both powerful and agile so actual weight and height are less important than the correct proportion of weight to height. Desirable weight for a mature male in good condition is between 35 and 60 pounds. Desirable weight for a mature female in good condition is between 30 and 50 pounds. Dogs over these weights are not to be penalized unless they are disproportionately massive or rangy.

now take the average hieght of an apbt and the average hieght of a lab...YOUR LAB IS WAY TALLER. also, look at the weigth standards... ur lookin at a 20lb diffence in either sex... they lab is a larger breed all together. therefor requires large breed dog food..

also, i feed orijen not evo

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70 while high end isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility for an adult male APBT, depending on the bloodlines. I wouldn't automatically assume AmBully if I heard 70 lbs. 80 lbs however....is pushing the envelope.
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70 while high end isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility for an adult male APBT, depending on the bloodlines. I wouldn't automatically assume AmBully if I heard 70 lbs. 80 lbs however....is pushing the envelope.
well yes, i agree that its not CRAZY out of the standard... but i bet ya, the dog can stand to lose a few lbs
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well i have heard if u drink gallons of water at a time, it will dilute something in ur system and u can actually drown.... dont know how much of it is an urban ledgen tho lol
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Thank you all so much for the great info! I didnt want to start an argument but its good to hear two opinions. As for my puppy...he is an ambully but I dont see him getting over 100lbs. He will however be getting frequent excersise and walks, but even if he didn't how could the extra protien hurt him? Like Infinity said, whatever is not used is just passed. I really would like to feed Orijen and I think after reading im gonna go with the regular puppy version.
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Now in my profession I can tell you as far as humans go there is no such thing as to much water. If for some reason you ingested to much water for your body to handle you throw up no harm no foul but it does take an idiot to drink that much.
I beg to differ, sir: Dated 01/14/07 Woman Dies from Drinking too Much Water


CNN reported on a woman who died Friday from drinking too much water. Jennifer Strange (28) was participating in a radio station's "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" contest to see who could drink the most water before having to go to the bathroom. The condition that results from over-hydrating, hyponatremia, sometimes is seen in infants who are given bottles of water to drink (not a good plan) and also in some athletes who drink as much water as they can before exercising (e.g., marathon runners).

It's important to stay hydrated, but how do you know if you're overdoing it? One of the first signs of water intoxication is swelling. If your fingers start to get puffy where your rings become tight, that could indicate a problem. Other symptoms of hyponatremia are nausea and dizziness. If you experience these symptoms and suspect water intoxication, stop drinking more water (that part should be obvious) and seek medical attention. Eat some food to replace the electrolytes (salts) that are being diluted by the water.
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Thank you all so much for the great info! I didnt want to start an argument but its good to hear two opinions. As for my puppy...he is an ambully but I dont see him getting over 100lbs. He will however be getting frequent excersise and walks, but even if he didn't how could the extra protien hurt him? Like Infinity said, whatever is not used is just passed. I really would like to feed Orijen and I think after reading im gonna go with the regular puppy version.


WOOO HOOO! orijen is a wonderful feed. u are really going to enjoy it.

and no argument here... jsut debate
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OMG I love this! I am in accounting and use excel all day every day - +1 to you for being a fellow spreadsheet geek

LOL, I'm glad I'm not alone. I also have within that spreadsheet, some worksheets with my gas mileage for all of 08, and this year-to-date. My Honda gives me an average of 29.6 MPG, an average of 379.3 miles per tank full, and an average of $46.82 per fill up, HAHAHAHAHA.
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