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Old 07-29-2009, 09:09 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Read this before you go crazy buying all kind of food. I have had a dogs that got Sarcoptic mange and you really cannot test for them. They mimic allergies and do not show up on skin scrapings. Treat for this first then if it does not clear up you can go the allergy route. It is best to treat for one thing at a time vs many at once. That way you can figure out what the cause is. What you are describing could be Sarcoptic mange or allergies.

The symptoms are varied but usually include hair loss and severe itching on the top of the head, elbows, ears, armpits, hocks, chest, and ventral abdomen (belly). The mites prefer to live on areas of the skin that have less hair. As the infection worsens it can spread over the entire body. Small red pustules often develop along with yellow crust on the skin. Because of the severe itching and resultant scratching from the dog, the skin soon becomes traumatized and a variety of sores and infections can develop as a result. The itching seems to be much worse in warm conditions such as indoors or near a stove or heat vent. If the infection goes on untreated or is mistakenly treated as an allergy (#1 misdiagnosis by Vets), the skin may darken due to the constant irritation, and the surrounding lymph nodes may become enlarged.

Sarcoptic mange is an extremely common infection and many cases have often been misdiagnosed as severe allergy to a certain type of dog food or environmental plants. In many parts of the US and Canada including all of North and South America, there are more dogs with sarcoptic mange than their are with ticks, fleas, lice, or even ear mites. For these reasons, any time I see a dog with severe itching, and no fleas or ticks are seen on the dog's skin, I have to automatically suspect sarcoptic mange as the culprit.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Where can I get these dog foods?
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I say mange, food allergies you see more swelling. Mange you see hair loss like that.
It is worth the 25 dollars to treat your dog at home with this than to try and spend tons of money on food if that is not the problem. I have seen Sarcoptic mange before and your girl looks classic. Many vets also miss this and dogs go untreated

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looking at the picture her ears, armpits, forearms, and hocks are classic for this.
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yeah, she doesn't look that inflamed as I pictured
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The dog food you suggested is sold at Petgo. We do have a pet smart here where I live...if I can't find it what else might you suggest?
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um..... I guess your not considering mange. It's a shame because you will spend (ask Shana) hundreds of dollars sometimes on trying to find the right food for allergies when you have no clue thats what it is. IMHO the best thing to do is treat for mange, then get blood work done if the itching doesn't stop. I had a client get blood work done at a specialists office and it came back and told her what food and environmental allergies. Saves you allot of many trying different foods if you have no idea what the issue is.
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I talked to my vet and he did test her for Sarcoptic mange and the test came out negitive. I will try what you said but I'm looking to change what she eats as well.
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I had the same problem with Kaiser when he was a pup, I had him tested for mange but the tests came back negative, but he kept loosing patches of hair and had little greenish puss bumps, I dipped him in permectrin II and it did the trick. Usually local feed stores carry it because it can be used on all farm animals.
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His food allergy hair loss was different, it didn't fall out in patches, he was just shedding uncontrollably until I went grain free.

Could it possibly be hot spots? But don't those usually have a lesion as well? Or an allergic reaction to fleas. Oatmeal baths help sooth the itching but wont solve the problem. Also a fatty acid can help sooth skin as well, like an omega 3/fish oil oil supplement.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:49 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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Thanks all...I will head to the feed and seed store tomorrow...
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well iv been threw this a few times believe it or not with all different breeds so the first thing i would do if i was you is look at the ingredients of what ever food u have for her because most dogs are allergic to corn flour and alot of god food contain it, it can usualy be seen in the first or second line in the ingredients and if she happens to be allergic to corn flour that means she will itch,itch and itch somemore because it drys their skin out like crazy so what u want do is change your food and make sure it doesnt have corn flour in it and then to help re-plenish their skins natural oils once a day put 2 table spoons of olive oil in their food and mix it up within a week u should see a noticable decrease in itching and chewing
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I was having the same problem with my bully. The spot on your dogs right leg looked like a spot on smoke and I switched his diet to raw and his coat cleared up in a week and he don't scratch like he used to and his coat looks great. Feeding raw aint for everybody it's alot more work but it works for us just make sure to do some research to find out what would be the best for you. There are alot of threads about feeding raw you just have to search for them
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it definitely sounds like a food allergy. switching foods should help.

have you also checked for possible fleas? or any type of food maybe in the yard that is accessible and not necessarily good for the pup?

that happened to whiskey when he was a pup, almost EXACTLY actually. the vet thought it was allergies as well but i gave him a flea bath, through on some front line and he was a okay from that day on. might want to consider that considering his coat is dark and it would be pretty hard to find fleas on him. especially if you dont already have an active flea medication like frontline or advantage in effect.
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