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Old 10-15-2009, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hello everyone,

This is my first post here and i am desperate.

I have a very beautiful, calm and loving Pitbull Mastif Mix. He is 9 months old and his Name is DOBBS. I have owned him about 1 month now. He has diarreha and seems as if he cant hold it. Last night he jumped on my bed to let me know he had to go, by the time i got up he went. His stool is like a pea green in color and very watery. I called his PO this morning and he told me he has always had it and that it sometimes gets a little better but never completely gets normal. So with that information its safe to say he has had this most of his 9 month life.

I really need some ideas. Everything is pointing to taking him to the Vet, which i do not want to do in this town. The vet here is very expensive because he is the only Vet within about 100 miles.

Please if you have any ideas i will try them all. I am going to call the Vet just in case and see if maybe i can work somehting out.

I really love this dog and seeing him like this is killing me.

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Old 10-15-2009, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Welcome to GP!

I am no expert.. (might want to wait for some more members comments)

When our puppy had diarrhea we put a teaspoon off yogurt with pro biotics to help with digestion. BUT it wasn't green or extremely watery.

I think that green colored diarrhea is produced from bile not being properly digested before it is passed.

You might need to see a vet, and make sure to bring a fresh stool sample so they can test for parasites or disease.
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What type of food do you feed your dog? And what is the portion/schedule of your feeding? Knowing a little more may get you some better answers. I do agree however, about probiotics. If stool is runny, the food is not properly being digested for some reason or another, and it can be due to food allergies, eating too many treats, unbalanced diet, dehydration, lack of probiotics (organic yogurt can help)
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I am feeding him Nature's Recipe large breed puppy. I give him about 2 1/2 cups morning and evening. He has gas too. I can sometimes catch him when he farts and take him out side.

I am going to try feeding him some bland food like hamburger and rice or chicken and rice.

he acts normal .... drinks lots of water. Plays with my kids ... all is fine till he has to go poop.

Thanks for your quick responses guys. I will post pics and update my profile later today when i get home.

Where can i find this probiotics stuff?
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well probiotics are just natural bacteria that help your body's enzymes break down food so that the stomach lining can absorb more nutrients into the blood stream, and the digestive tract. When your body can absorb more of the food you are eating, your waste is going to become smaller, because less mass is going undigested. You can find them in pill form, but most people prefer supplementing with ORGANIC, PLAIN yogurt, which can have 5 or 7 cultures. I'd go with the 7 if you can find it, or if the dog food already contains some, you might have a food allergy. But if you feed 2.5 cups twice a day, you are feeding quite too much. How often does your pup go to the bathroom? A well fed dog should only eliminate twice a day, any more and it's a good chance theyre being overfed.
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Where can i find this probiotics stuff?
At a health food store or farmers market!
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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He is going twice a day this week if you count the accidents. The bag says he needs between 5-7 cups? Thats too much? He weighs about 60lbs.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, you really shouldn't follow what the bag says. In many cases that Ive seen people go by the company's guidelines, most were over feeding. IMO you are over feeding, and you should decrease it to 1 cup 2x- 1.5 cups, since I don't know enough about Mastiffs. But 60 lbs, 9 month... Sure sounds like a lot of food LOL
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Well from my understanding of the Mastif breed he should be allot bigger by now. I suspect this diarreha issue is why he isnt. I mean he looks healthy and acts fine ..... just need to get this under control. Guess its a Vet visit to be safe he doesnt have some bacteria issue.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well from my understanding of the Mastif breed he should be allot bigger by now. I suspect this diarreha issue is why he isnt. I mean he looks healthy and acts fine ..... just need to get this under control. Guess its a Vet visit to be safe he doesnt have some bacteria issue.

Well when breeding two breeds, you don't necessarily have to have obvious traits of both. You can, but unless you know what your breeding, the outcome is like a crap shoot. He may only get to a modest size, as you said its a apbt/mastiff mix. Also, some breeds take a long time to mature, so you may not see the end results til about 2-3 years imo.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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If your dog is having diarrhea it could be related to diet but not if it is explosive like that. You probably have bacteria or a bug in the digestive tack. Things like Coccida or Giardia are easy for a dog to pick up. Anytime I have a dog who I have not changed diets on get diarrhea I treat them with metronidazole. It is a cure all for what ales the gut and clears up diarrhea in just a day. You need to treat for 5-7 days but it clears it up quick. If the diarrhea persist after 3 days of being on the metronidazole then you need to go to the vet. This is what we have been suing in our kennels for years and what most vets will give you anyway after the have done several expensive tests.

If your dog has diarrhea for a few days Metronidazole is a great antibiotic that works wonders on the gut. I always use it at the first sign of diarrhea and it stops it about 95% of the time.

Dosage
11.5 to 15 Mg per lbs of body weight. This is given BID (mean 2x a day)

example
your dog weights 40lbs so take 40 x 15 = 600 mg or you could use a smaller dose 40 x 11.5 = 460
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250 mg and 500 mg tablets I would give 500 mg 2 times a day for 7 days.

If you have smaller dogs then like puppies order 250 mg tablets
If you have dogs over 40lbs order the 500 mg tablets

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CAUTION you can overdose puppies and small dogs easily with metronidazole and have neurological problems. So I would always use the 11.5 x the body weight dosage and not ever give it to pups under 10lbs but that is JMO.
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how much does your dog weigh and is he over weight? that will determine how much food you need to feed him.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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He weighs 60.5 lbs. He isnt over weight at all. He looks healthy.

So if i get the metronidazole 500 i should give him 2 tabs a day?
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Do you have any pictures of your dog? Side shots, especially?
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I would do 1.5 pill 2x a day for a dog that weight. The amount of food you are feeding is fine as long as your dog is not overweight. Each dog is different and we need to adjust the food to how the dog looks. I would agree never go by what the bag of dog food says after all they are in the business of selling dog food and want your dog overfed and fat
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