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Old 01-07-2019, 05:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Persistent Congestion

Lina has been having trouble breathing for the past couple of weeks. She's been really laboring to breathe through her nose with constant snorting and hacking. I took her to the vet this past Friday. The vet looked her over, felt around her head in some places, and concluded it's not the big C. Apparently there is some inflammation in the nasal cavities, so they prescribed anti-inflammatory pills and even suggested Afrin to help clear the nose.

So that brings us to the tricky part. Getting her to take pills takes some creativity but I think I found a solution to get her to take them. I line up 5 pepperoni slices to give to her in rapid succession and the pill is wrapped in the 3rd one. The first 2 go quickly and then the one with the pill and then immediately afterwards, 2 more. I got it to work once and I'll try it again tonight.

But the Afrin? Now that's a different issue altogether. How in the world am I going to be able to get that stuff into her nose? At first, I've tried petting her from behind while keeping the bottle out of sight. Then at an unsuspecting time, get it to her nose and squeeze the bottle as quickly as I can.

Honestly I don't know if any of it actually went into her nose. But she absolutely HATES it! Are there any other suggestions on how I can get her to take this medicine?

Thanks all!
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Ask your doctor about allergy meds instead. Try pill pockets or pill wrap to make pilling her easier.
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Old 01-08-2019, 04:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the suggestions Ecko. Last night was a nightmare! From the time I got home from work yesterday until this morning, she has been constantly hacking, coughing, and snorting. I'm talking like every 30 seconds and I've never seen her this bad before. It has grown to be quite concerning and I really feel bad for her. I wish I knew what to do to relive the discomfort she's having.

I was able to give her an anti-inflammatory pill this morning and she'll get another tonight in her dinner. But I'm skeptical if those are helping. I also have prednisone for her but those really don't work anymore.

Any other suggestions? Thanks again!
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Get a second opinion is my suggestion. The vet should be looking for the source, not just treating the symptoms. A rhinoscopy will tell you what it is and while the vet is in there, they can remove it.

I personally double up allergy meds for Ecko per my vets approval of course. He gets two 24 hour zirtec twice a day to help keep him as dry as he can ever be again.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I was thinking the same thing. I didn't really care for how my vet didn't do much to diagnose the issue and then threw more pills at me. She gets seasonal allergies but this has been going on far longer than that. I believe that warrants further diagnosis, especially if she is suffering and/or bleeding.

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Best of luck Nubwagon, please do post back and let us know how Lina is doing. Fingers cross that a different vet can find out what's causing the poor girls misery.

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Old 01-10-2019, 05:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Right so I took her to another vet yesterday morning for a 2nd opinion. After taking her temp (which is normal) and discussing the situation further, this vet also concluded that it is a mixture of allergies and congestion.

We've been having fluctuating temps here within the past few weeks and most recently it has been unseasonably warm. So I can buy that as the reason for her bleeding. Last evening through this morning it has cooled off significantly here and at the same time her bleeding has all but subsided. So I'll chalk the bleeding up to warmer, drier temps. I have been running a humidifier for her the couple of days which hopefully will also help with the drier air.

I left the vet's office yesterday with some doggie Robitussin and will need to devise a sneaky way to give that to her also. I tried putting it on a plate mixed with some bacon grease yesterday but she wanted nothing to do with it. I guess dogs don't like cherry flavored medicine

But if 2 different vets are not overly concerned with her situation, then it must not be very serious. I'll keep giving her the antibiotics (vet suggested to stop with the prednisone) and the liquid medicine and keep a close eye on the results.

Thanks again all for the help!
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Thanks for the update Nubwagon. I do know that my boy Titus's allergies have been terrible the last month also. May be something in the air. Hopefully, the vet(s) are correct and it will subside on it's own.


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Well I came home from work last night and Lina was back to her old self again. No bleeding, hacking, etc. like it never happened. She and Ogie played around for a while which I haven't seen in so long. But all through the night into today, she's been normal.

My guess is her troubles were weather related. The temperature here has been pretty inconsistent which probably wreaked havoc on her sinuses. Now that it has cooled off for a while, she's feeling better.

I'll continue to monitor her for any further issues, but I think we're good for now. Thanks again all!
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Well I came home from work last night and Lina was back to her old self again. No bleeding, hacking, etc. like it never happened. She and Ogie played around for a while which I haven't seen in so long. But all through the night into today, she's been normal.

My guess is her troubles were weather related. The temperature here has been pretty inconsistent which probably wreaked havoc on her sinuses. Now that it has cooled off for a while, she's feeling better.

I'll continue to monitor her for any further issues, but I think we're good for now. Thanks again all!

Good news!
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I utilize a holistic vet, who uses herbs and tinctures for my dogs. I know not everyone believes in alternative medicine, but animals respond especially well to this type of approach. My vet was traditionally trained at Colorado State University and has been practicing for over 20 years utilizing both traditional and holistic modalities. It is worth looking for a wholistic vet in your area to at least try using some less invasive medications that may help your dogs, before the heavy hitting meds. I also believe feeding a raw diet helps eliminate allergies in pets. I provide a 1/2 and 1/2 approach where by I feed raw in the mornings and kibble at night. I know this is a hot topic right now and there are a lot of thoughts about feeding raw, but it may be something to consider as well. Especially if your dog deals with allergies often. There are a lot of good books and articles on this diet. Two doctors I follow are Will Falconer, DVM and Karen Becker, DVM. They are very informative. Again, I know this approach is not for everyone, but I have had great success with the health of my dogs and just thought I would pass it along.
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Old 02-27-2019, 06:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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A quick update about the situation: Lina's congestion has returned and is really being persistent now. The antibiotics and steroids are no longer working, so they have been ceased. The vet recommended trying Afrin as well, but that's near impossible as she will absolutely not let me anywhere near here with that bottle. I was able to do it once, but that was after a 5 minute wrestling session. No bueno & I won't be doing it again.

The vet and I discussed next steps, so she'll be headed back to the vet tomorrow for scans and a more detailed diagnosis of this lump on the bridge of her nose which has grown larger. It's right between her eyes and I can't help but thinking whatever this lump is is affecting her breathing. It doesn't feel hard...it's pliable so hopefully they can drain and/or remove it. But analyzing it as well as scans should give us a good idea of the root cause.

It better...I'm running out of money! :\

I'll let you all know the results. Thanks again!
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In our thoughts Nubwagon. It would make sense that the lump is causing the breathing problems. Hopefully something simple. Fingers crossed.

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She went in yesterday morning at 9 and the vet asked to leave her there while they did their thing. I picked her up at noon and discussed the results with the vet. They did multiple x-rays and did a fine needle aspiration of the lump. Her lungs, heart, intestines all look good so it hasn't spread beyond the nasal region. Surprisingly though she believes the lump on her nose is not interfering with her breathing. Apparently the lump resides on the bone instead of the nasal tissue so it would seem it is more coincidental than anything else. But we'll get the results of the aspiration back on Monday.

So it seems inflammation is the root cause. She had prescribed more prednisone which is a steroid. I had expressed concern about overusing steroids to the point of damage. Vet said it's not a concern as the liver will help regulate enzymes without damage.

So that's the deal. All that for what we already knew. After she got home up to this morning when I left for work, she's been super hacking which sounds like bear or a lion. It's from the breathing tube that was in her throat while she was knocked out. Vet says she'll get past it but man, that hack is nasty! Never heard a dog sound like that before and Ogie is afraid of her when she does it. Poor things!

While Lina was sedated, the vet staff took the time to paint her nails a pretty pink. Very cute and you can see the lump on her nose from the pic:



That's all for now. Obviously I'll be keeping a close eye on her this weekend for improvements. Thanks again everyone!
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hopefully the results will show everything is normal!! can I ask what are you feeding her? just a thought what if it is a food allergies?
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