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Old 06-02-2010, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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So is this the begining of mange?

Ive been to the vet 3 times and sent back home with the same meds. which help untill the meds are finished. obviously this isnt working. i dont know what to do and im not going to go back for the same meds. The areas that have bumps are small bumps which get flakey/dry skin then turn to red bumps. in those arears hair just comes right off. ive lunch baggyed each pinch of hair to take BACK to the vet once again. and the ends of the fur is crusty/scabby stuff....
















anybody have any suggestions? shes never came into contact with any other dogs who have it...it all of a sudden just happend when her period came around. thats done with now and the bumps still remain.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not 100% sure, but it does sound like Demodex (not sure if this is the correct name) Mange. From what I understand, this type of mange is genetic, and is usually brought on by stress such as a heat cycle or pregnancy. I've not had to deal with this, so when Lisa and/or Deb to chime in here b/c they have more experience/knowledge in this area. I'll see if I can find some sticky threads pertaining to the subject at hand to help you out in the mean time and post them here.

https://www.gopitbull.com/health-nutr...et-manual.html

You may want to start here, click on the link for the vet manual and try searching around in there. It is a free site, and there's no membership required. This may help you to find out some answers until Lisa or Deb can offer you any guidance. Sorry I'm not much help. Also, I believe Trevor (Nismo) might be able to help since he's a vet tech. Best of luck to you and please keep us posted. I will be keeping an eye on this thread to see what you find out. I hope that I've been of some help to you.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Allergies and other skin conditions cause these symptoms too but to me it doesn't look like Demodex, I could be wrong...
What is the vet giving you? Prescription wise?
Did he do any skin scrapings to test for yeast or skin bacteria?
Were you given shampoos, ointments, a name for his condition?
Is your boy itching or trying to bite those areas?
My boy use to suffer from allergies where he'd puss up in bumps, those areas then become bald or the hair comes off in your hands, he had a skin infection along with yeast growth.
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Ok thank you. Ive posted before, and somebody did mention the demodex mange. I was on the way back to the vet at that post. i just dont get how the vet is missing this. which is why i started collecting lil samples. they wont listen when i tell them the meds arent working. im almost wondering if i should try a diff. vet. i dont want to, i really dont, so im hoping these samples will help. Ive been reading on here, on other people dogs and their skin problems/mange and im pretty much trying to figure this out on my own. (with the help of you guys here) since the vet is literaly clueless.

i know they dont specialize in SKIN problems, thats what a dermotologist does but, i can only afford my vet.

but thank you ill keep looking things up till i take her in...AGAIN. gota wait till next pay check next week. hope her bumps dont get to out of control this is really stressful. And i think shes starting to scratch at them.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The vet do a skin scraping to see if its yeast or infection their not limited to that unless their just idiots.

If your guy on any oils fish oil, salmon or flax I would do so, also some yogurt in his meals these things help tho it takes time ...
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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To Duece:

Vet gave me: two antibiotics-Cephalexin 500mg and Prednisolone 5mg all three times i went to the vet.

No skin scrappings were done, she DID how ever have a 4plus yeast infection in the ear that just went haywire during her period, that cleared up beautifully with the ear drops AND those meds. he said her body was unbalanced so that caused the infection....infections gone, bumps still remain.


No shampoos, ointments, or a name for her condition.

the only thing shes JUST NOW started doing is scratching here and there...looks like on those areas on her neck and head.

her fur does just seem to...idk rub off but that could be shedding to? im not sure...


the yeast bacteria sounds like a possibility as well too. You guys help more then my vet. lol
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Yea he just Q-Tipped her ear for THAT sample thats how he found out it was a yeast infection in the ear, but they did NOTHING about the bumps (they said the bumps should all go away once the ear cleared up) till the two other times i went. they tell me they cant tell what it is...how come i find more then they do? lol :/
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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dont know a lot bout mange, know there 2-3 types. each a lil different but would have hoped your vet would have figured that out after 3 visits, know they dont get cheaper.
know when my dog was younger, broke out in some bumps, looked almost identical to you're first two pics. never really lost any hair tho. hers was an allergy issue. u changed food, shampoo, change detergent and wash anything your dog may sleep on? u probably already thought of but just throwin out ideas.
wish i could help out more, may try a lil benadryl??
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Ronnie, thanks for helping out in this area, as I previously posted, I don't have any experience in this area. Only going off what I've read on here and learned thanks to Lisa and Deb and many others, like yourself.
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yes my boy was covered in pussing bumps and almost bald they had him on antibiotics too and he would get better til he was done with the antibiotics ...... and a yeast infection from the depth of heyol. It would just ooze out of his ears and stunk of death.
But yes Deb and Lisa can be of more help. Try adding the oils, maybe a little fresh crushed garlic in her meals every other day, a small clove isn't harmful as long as she doesn't have anemia. Yogurt ( organic with more then 5 cultures) ACV ( Apple Cider Vinegar ) ... and if you have a health store get some Milk Thistle it promotes liver function, helps rid toxins. These are natural things that are beneficial but take time ...
I went with a more natural approach because his problem was systemic ...........
Also a good Oatmeal & Conditioning Shampoo would help,

If he gets a bump I put some Calendula tincture on it , dries that sucker right up ... Just a little FYI ....

Smh @ your could have at least sampled the area as my vet did , yea you need a new vet ASAP ! The information you gave above should be useful for when they come pass this thread thats why I asked those questions ...

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Old 06-02-2010, 11:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Thank you American Pride., yea after 3 visits i thought something more would have been brought out to the table. they have been great with starr ever sinc she was a baby. treated her urinary tract infect. great. her shots, her puppy worms. everything up untill now, they are letin me down

the vet suggested an allergy issue, stress issue, something in the air issue. and this and that but never did any scrape testing or anything, just handed over the meds and said "she should be fine" or "this should clear up"
and it does clear up...till the meds are GONE lol

i thought perhaps it would be allergies, i mean, seems to make sense with the weather changing and what not, the only thing ive changed in her doggy life is food. went from Beniful to Old yeller, but now im putting her BACK on beniful, because i thought maybe the food was causing this. Ok well and yes i have changed shampoo, went from johnson and johnson to a puppy hypo-allergenic shampoo. its called Naturally Green Tropiclean.
was guna go right back to the other tho. im trying to back track.
she never really sleeps on her bed anymore, she sleeps on the floor or sometimes on my bed with me.
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u very welcome. if she back on the same food in which she didnt have any problems on and she still having the bumps, can probably check that off the list. like someone said a oatmeal and conditioning shampoo is a good choice for some dogs with skin allergy issues, course ur hypo-allergenic shampoo may be just as good?
lil benadryl could help with the itching, and never know, may clear it right up. will have 2 look up correct dosage, cant remember off top of my head....
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should be safe at 0.5mg - 1mg/pound. so if ur dog bout 40lbs wouldnt give her no more than 40mg. can always caution on the low side, cant remember the dosage of each pill, maybe 40mg?? but pretty sure my girl just got one at a time, can be given every 8 hours.
hope you get it beat and your girl get feelin better
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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yea this shampoo i got says at the top Natural Oatmeal Enriched. Today after trying to clean up some of the bumps with rubbing alcohol and gently getting the hair/crusties off those spots, i gave her a bath...the "swelling" of the bumps did go down, but theyll go back up by moring, like always.

i forgot to mention about the benadryl, i am wanting to go out and buy that, thanks on the amount info i should give, i wrote that down.

shes a big girl, weighs about 85 pounds. and shes not fat thats whats crazy, shes very strong, i had her pull me on a sled during the winter lol, but yea shes well over 40 pounds. and shes 9 months old.
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I would still double check the food. Beneful and Old Yeller have corn as one of the main ingredients, and if it is a food allergy, you need to eliminate any foods containing corn or wheat in them. You might check into a grain-free product something like a beef and rice, chicken and rice, or lamb and rice. I'm not sure what your financial standpoint is for food expenses, but you may check out Dog Food: All Natural, High Quality, Holistic Pet Food. Dog Foods, Cat Foods, Dog Biscuits They've got awesome food, and it doesn't have corn in the ingredients list at all. They also have a grain-free formula, and one of the types they have is salmon! I found it to be a wonderful food and had great results with all the dogs I fed it to. You may call around to local feed stores and boarding kennels/grooming salons that retail food and see if they carry Canidae. If not, you can also check the website and see if one of the vendors on their site will deliver to your house at a price you can afford. Good luck in your endeavors and again, please keep us posted.
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