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Old 08-23-2010, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Ok so I took Max my elderly dog(he dont know that lol) to the vets today for a checkup before the winter gets here.Wayyy back a few years ago he has some precanceres growths he had on his legs ,there was 2 of them.Dont remember the name of them as I have to pickup the path reports from his old vet today.Anyways so I noticed now for a few months that he had this now pea size thing on the front of his bottom gums.It started out small and is the size of the pea.So I had the vet look at it and it was called some that started with an E.She said we could remove it,that would mean removing teeth ,gum ect and send it off to see what it was.That would cost over a thousand right there.I told her no as even if it was cancer we wont being doing chemo ect.So then she said the could also have it smoothed down,so it wouldt bother him.So I said ok we could do that if needed.As she said to watch it.So she moves on with the exam and tells me he has a grade 3 heartmumur.Damit.So now she wont touch him without a ultrasound of his heart.Now mind you he has not showed any clinical signs of having this.So grrr I dont know what to do damit.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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How old is the dog? I think that is a major factor in going into any type of surgery. It is always a hard decision and I have been in your a shoes a few times. Kaos my old male had cancer in the stomach, my vet said they could do all kinds of tests and surgery but then it would likely be Chemo and taking parts of his intestine out. I would never do chemo because I have seen how hard it is on dogs just to get a few more months of life and I do not think that is fair. I declined surgery and my vet agreed that it was best not to put him through that. He lived for another 1.5 to 2 years before he passed, the cancer caused a major bleed in him stomach and we finally lost him but he had a great life till then and he was not in any pain with the cancer. He lived to be 12.

Now I have Vixen who has several small tumors that we are watching and we want to take out. She is 10 years old and in much better shape than Kaos was in. Her surgery is going to cost about 700 and we will do it before the end of the year is out. The deciding factor for us is she is very healthy and acts like a 2 year old. Kaos was already very slow and old for his age, he also had surgery a few years back to remove a few fatty tumors and he did not heal well. His body could not take it. Vixen on the other hand should have no problems with surgery.

So two similar cases but 2 totally different dogs and out comes. In your case you have a dog that has a heart problem and to me that is the same and not being in good health and I would not do the surgery at this point. I had a vet diagnose my dog with a grade mummer and they were wrong so getting a second opinion might not be a bad idea.
What I might do in your situation is go to a cardiologist or another vet and have then look at his heart, maybe do an ultrasound and see how bad his heart really is.

Then if they think he can tolerate surgery I would wait and watch the tumor on his gums. The problem with those is they grow fast and even if that shaved it down it will just keep growing. If the dog can go through surgery and is otherwise a healthy active dog then save the money and get it removed. If your dogs is like Kaos and not going to tolerate surgery then just make him very comfortable for the rest of his days.

It is a tough call but I think you have time to think about it and talk to another vet and get another quote.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
 

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ok I agree.We are going to do the ultrasound on him and see how bad it is. As the vet said sometimes just by listening a small leak could sound bad and the other way around to.So at this moment I think we'll do the ultrasound and just watch it.Max is atleast 14.But I m thinking to,its not bothering him.He still eats,drinks and like yours plays like a 2yr old.Grrr dam old dogs!!! I'll try to get a picture of it and post it on here,so you can see.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great advice and great decision, Max is in good hands for sure Give the old boy a big hug from me
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How did sdhe deterime it was a grade 3 heart murmer if he has not had the ultra sound done yet.

I think that if he was mine I would say enough and let him live out his life without medical treatments. Once he is not enjoying life then I would have him put down.



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Not sure,she just listen to his heart and said he had it.Then I asked how bad and she told me a grade 3
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I personally would do the ultrasound to see if he can handle having his bump "scraped"? If he couldn't I would let him be, and let him live his natural life, and put him to sleep if his quality of life is not good. Jay and I had to make this decision last year. It was hard. Different situation, but still an older dog, and we had to choose to put him to sleep for his own sake after caring for him when he was sick. Not saying now-just saying when it is time.
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Get a second opinion.
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Well I don't know about your vet but Mikado had a heart murmer. I took him to 4 different vets none could tell me how bad it was until I found one that could do the ultra sound.



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