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Old 05-12-2011, 07:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
 
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I'm pretty sure "nuts" means nuggets. In reference to kibble.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
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yeah gain pet foods thats wat i feed her, all this happened before she came into pup the lack of protien maybe brought on the mastitis?? i weaned the pups off her the end of 3rd wk start of 4th and gave her exercise as normal
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:20 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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tnx ekcomac i must look out for that
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that's what I thought he was talking about at first too.lol.But it's the name of the dog food.He's in Ireland
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Breed it to a blue gator mouth and it will go back to normal.
Kinda hard to help educate people to do the right thing when you have to wade through the sarcasm
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:40 PM   #35 (permalink)
 
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every little bit of info helps tho its good to hear diff opinions off ppl that actually no and have a full interest in pitbulls instead of the know all ppl that really havent a clue like myself once, tnx again.
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The best advice he can get is to fix the dog immediately, feed it good food and the hair should go back to normal. Whether pits are rare in Ireland or not, this guy has no reason breeding these dogs. I also know where ever these dogs are illegal the vets won't treat them and the animals will get confiscated by animal control and put down.
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1. No business breeding, its apparent you have little knowledge to do so.
2. Ive never fed a dog with less protein than 32%, currently im feeding Orijen and the food theyre on has 40%. They are thriving, first dogs ive fed Orijen too and unless something drastically changes i will probably always feed it. I've never had better results.
3. I cant find anything on Gain as to the actual ingredients but it sounds like its mediocre at best.

Everyone else has summed everything up for you. Dont breed again.
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19bowie84 I don't know how it is over there where you are from with this breed. But here in the states these dog's are so overbred it's disgusting. It's not uncommon to see idiots breed these dog's until that can't walk anymore make a whole bunch of money and then dump them off on the side of the road somewhere like trash. I for one am sick and tired of seeing it. I don't know you nor do I know why you chose to breed your dog. But what I do know is our breed is being banned faster than these dog's are getting homes. Because everyone want's to own a pit bull to breed them but very few want to step up to the plate and be responsible dog owners. I am not nice about this kind of stuff I'm just not and I am not going to apologize for it either I have been around the breed for awhile now I have never bred a dog or has an accidental breeding and I have owned intact dog's all my life. I hope for the breeds sake and for the sake of your dog you will spay her and never breed her again.
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david wit all due respect did ya even read my post this happened good few months ago her hair is after growin back an all and breedin her had nothing to do wit it again ill point out READ my post first, it was out of curiosity that i asked was it the protien percentage that was to high or just coincidental that it stopped when i changed her food and wat makes u think that u can breed pits more than i can, im sure u once started off at the start knowin as much as i did but askin questions on these forums help wit knowing more ok,u might no more and done all this before but we share the same interest ok
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1. No business breeding, its apparent you have little knowledge to do so.
2. Ive never fed a dog with less protein than 32%, currently im feeding Orijen and the food theyre on has 40%. They are thriving, first dogs ive fed Orijen too and unless something drastically changes i will probably always feed it. I've never had better results.
3. I cant find anything on Gain as to the actual ingredients but it sounds like its mediocre at best.

Everyone else has summed everything up for you. Dont breed again.
This is something that we have to disagree on and there is research supporting both high and low protein. I tend to go on the lower side of protein because of how hard it is on the kidney's how ever some people have great success with higher levels. The best thing to do is look at the dog but 20% IMO is too low.


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I'm pretty sure "nuts" means nuggets. In reference to kibble.
LMAO oops that makes sense, I was trying to wrap my head around feeding nuts!
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:00 PM   #41 (permalink)
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david wit all due respect did ya even read my post this happened good few months ago her hair is after growin back an all and breedin her had nothing to do wit it again ill point out READ my post first, it was out of curiosity that i asked was it the protien percentage that was to high or just coincidental that it stopped when i changed her food and wat makes u think that u can breed pits more than i can, im sure u once started off at the start knowin as much as i did but askin questions on these forums help wit knowing more ok,u might no more and done all this before but we share the same interest ok
lmfao dude i dont know who you were directing the "what makes you think you can breed pits more than i can" but ive owned this beed my entire life and not ONCE have i done a breeding. Not once have i thought about breeding nor will i ever breed. Want to know why? I have no desire to. I dont have the time and energy as well as the money to do it properly therefore im not going to damage this breed just to make a buck or brag about how im some breeder.

Not everyone is a breeder that owns these dogs, or any dogs for that matter. Very few breeders actually do it right and those very few i support. Everyone else is just creating a massive problem. Ignorance, selfishness, BSL and lack of knowledge all falls under that massive problem.
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This is something that we have to disagree on and there is research supporting both high and low protein. I tend to go on the lower side of protein because of how hard it is on the kidney's how ever some people have great success with higher levels. The best thing to do is look at the dog but 20% IMO is too low.




LMAO oops that makes sense, I was trying to wrap my head around feeding nuts!
Well we cant always agree on everything. I believe we agree on majority of the core issues. I think when it comes to dog foods most will disagree on what works simply because all dogs are different.. Ive never had issues with it so of course, i have no problem with it. High protein + lots of water + lots of exercise = dogs happy.. At least, thats how it is for me.

I do agree with you, 20% is too low. I personally wouldnt recommend below 28% setting aside my own success however you may think that is a little high
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The best advice he can get is to fix the dog immediately, feed it good food and the hair should go back to normal. Whether pits are rare in Ireland or not, this guy has no reason breeding these dogs. I also know where ever these dogs are illegal the vets won't treat them and the animals will get confiscated by animal control and put down.



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1. No business breeding, its apparent you have little knowledge to do so.
2. Ive never fed a dog with less protein than 32%, currently im feeding Orijen and the food theyre on has 40%. They are thriving, first dogs ive fed Orijen too and unless something drastically changes i will probably always feed it. I've never had better results.
3. I cant find anything on Gain as to the actual ingredients but it sounds like its mediocre at best.

Everyone else has summed everything up for you. Dont breed again.


I feed EVO and that is also high in protein. Some of my past dog's have had issues with high protein kibbles and with growing pups it can cause issues. But I think overall it depends on each dog individually and if you have a dog who is not doing well on a particular feed than you make adjustments.
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does any1read the posts or do ye all just follow up on wat was said durin the posts im not breedin her again i kept 3of the pups when they were born as pets cos i had a big garden it wasnt for money,i had to move home recently so i got very good homes for the pups where i checked and knew that they were goin to a good home and made sure i could see the pups from time to time, i posted the ingredients on my other thread try gain pet food in google to look it up,her hair loss was BEFORE she even went into pup, and the reason im askin is so ill have the information for other ppl and the ppl i gave the pups to incase the same thing happens to them, at least im tryin to find out bout all this instead of ruinin the dog wit wat i thought was right for her its advice im lookin for not a lecture
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I have had issues with knuckling over in pups and it scares me off the higher protein levels. Plus your right what ever works is what I feed and my dogs do great on it.
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