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Old 07-07-2011, 08:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well it should strike you as something is wrong, the dog is obviously trying to tell him something, what if it is seizures and David is correcting him, I did this same thing thinking Penny was just acting silly til she woke us up in the middle of the night in a full blown Grand Mal seizure, a month later after several more growling episodes, another GM. And you don't have to have the moeny for something so inexpeinsive, what becoems expensive is the meds and the diet change and the energy it takes out of you the owner. Not to be ugly have you ever expierenced a dog with seizures, for 2 1/2 years, to deal with it day and night, your WHOLE schedule revovles around them. And if I had read the signs sooner I may have prevented some things in Penny (RIP). I don't ever take my dogs to the vet unless it is absolutely necessary, if I can't treat it at home then yeah they go to the vet, I have an awesome old school vet, though. SOrry this rubbed me the wrong way.
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I agree the vet can do nothing to stop or diagnose seizures. All they can do is check for tumors and blood work. There is nothing that is an emergency if he is acting normal in every other way. If everything else fails to bring an answer and you do not believe in ghosts, lol, then go to the vet to make sure it is nothing medical.
Sorry if i rubbed you the wrong way but i still stand by that. But to answer your question no i haven't.
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Actually a vet can diagnose seizures, they can say whether they are trigger or inherited or idopathic, I beleive that's the word. But yes they can check for tumors and blood work and I guess the 3 vets I talked to when I took Penny in were wrong when they told me they could check for seizures, hmmm. And then how can you tell him not to worry if his dog is giving classic seizure symptom signs. I know you know a lot about dogs but epilepsy is something I am still fresh out of, I learned a LOT in 2 1/2 years, did lots of research and I still could not save my girl, hours and hours of trips to the vet for meds or blood work every three months just to make sure the meds weren't killin her or shutting her liver and kidneys down. ANd you can stand by what you believe in and I will stnad by mine, if you have NO expiernce with seizures then pelase do not say anything. Thanks and yeah it did rub me the wrong way again, this is raw emotion form my stand point as I dealt with it for as long as I did, may not seem like a long time to some but it was to me and Iwould do it all over again if given the chance.

But not he vets cannot stop the seizures, but meds can help, and Lisa I have to disagree with the bold statement, well the end of it anyway, sorry this is exaclty what Penny did, why wait and see if soemthing happens and not be prepared for it. IDk maybe I am just difffernt and should have culled Penny before she got as bad as she did. Ok I have to step away from this, this is upsetting me.
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thanks for the help guys i appreciate the input from all of you. I have that appointment set, I pray its a ghost and not a seizure Bernie has been a true blessing to my family and I would die inside if he is sick. I can't deal with loosing another dog, Bernie is the best dog that we could ask for and it just scares the crap out of me of what it can be. Thankfully the insurance I have for my dogs i can bring them any time free of charge. The testing will be expensive as heck but hopefully it's a critter or a ghost
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Actually a vet can diagnose seizures, they can say whether they are trigger or inherited or idopathic, I beleive that's the word. But yes they can check for tumors and blood work and I guess the 3 vets I talked to when I took Penny in were wrong when they told me they could check for seizures, hmmm. And then how can you tell him not to worry if his dog is giving classic seizure symptom signs. I know you know a lot about dogs but epilepsy is something I am still fresh out of, I learned a LOT in 2 1/2 years, did lots of research and I still could not save my girl, hours and hours of trips to the vet for meds or blood work every three months just to make sure the meds weren't killin her or shutting her liver and kidneys down. ANd you can stand by what you believe in and I will stnad by mine, if you have NO expiernce with seizures then pelase do not say anything. Thanks and yeah it did rub me the wrong way again, this is raw emotion form my stand point as I dealt with it for as long as I did, may not seem like a long time to some but it was to me and Iwould do it all over again if given the chance.

But not he vets cannot stop the seizures, but meds can help, and Lisa I have to disagree with the bold statement, well the end of it anyway, sorry this is exaclty what Penny did, why wait and see if soemthing happens and not be prepared for it. IDk maybe I am just difffernt and should have culled Penny before she got as bad as she did. Ok I have to step away from this, this is upsetting me.
these methods that you speak of to detect seizures? how are they performed? is it a simple blood screen?

Bernie had a full blood panel done last fall and all his organs checked out alright. I have not made any changes to his diet besides the added raw medallions and the fish oil, vitamin c and glucosamine/MSM.
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Dogs can see spirits and spirits can attach themselves to a person or an item that you bring into your home. And I am being dead serious when I say this......if you recently had your son at a hospital then that is where you can easily pick them up. Sounds crazy right? I believe in it but I don't but to many funky things have happened to people I know over the past five years. Ever watch the HauNted on animal planet? Great show, you should check it out anyways, I will keep Bernie in my prayers and hope that it is nothing medical. Keep us posted
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Seriously I believe in ghosts and spirits and I know my dogs see them. We lived in a house that was pretty much haunted with crap happening all the time and the dogs could see them even if we couldn't.l
I agree with this, they see and hear some things and since you have a new baby, maybe its your baby's guardian angel saying hi
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Well I pray it's a ghost or a spirit... I do find it odd that while I was on the couch I felt my left leg feel chilly like my hairs wanted to raise up like static lol I am not joking but I find that kind of weird.. :/
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Well I pray it's a ghost or a spirit... I do find it odd that while I was on the couch I felt my left leg feel chilly like my hairs wanted to raise up like static lol I am not joking but I find that kind of weird.. :/
seeeeeee I bet it is! Don't worry too much. From what you described its not related to you or your family, he has super ears! lol I hope its not serious and I hope it works out!
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seeeeeee I bet it is! Don't worry too much. From what you described its not related to you or your family, he has super ears! lol I hope its not serious and I hope it works out!
He is a big boy so it does worry me because of his size.
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I'm gunna have to back Tye on this one as I too have dealt with the heart break of owning an epileptic dog. The vets will be able to tell you what's going on, they have gone a long way. Here in CA we actually have a place just for k-9 epilepsy, Mack Truck has an in loving memory plack on the wall there. I will definitely say a prayer for you guys tonight, I hope he just hears mice or something like that.



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If he has great hearing.. he could be growling at sounds and sights you can see or hear. Humans are getting dumber "sense" wise. You can elaborate on what they are, as long as his aggression isnt directed towards you and yours; he's all good, just feels like he needs to guard the vulnerable. Only time Hooch was ever HA was when the Mrs was alone home with the lil tots... No one usually come over unless they were family when I was gone, because you didnt want her to open the door, Hooch wasnt having it. As the baby's grow he became a lot more relaxed... give it time and monitor taking mental notes. The only wway his aggression will hurt the lil one of course if hes not directing at ya'll is by running her over in the process of "get some"...

Simple easy boy its okay.. dont punish him for guarding your family.. or what the point.. ?? if they act that way its a reason for it most usually. they dont want that mouse, cricket, bird, man walking outside, "spirits",... near that mamma and her baby.. ya'll are his pack and hes noticing something your not.. or his cheese is slippin of his cracker.
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Actually a vet can diagnose seizures, they can say whether they are trigger or inherited or idopathic, I beleive that's the word. But yes they can check for tumors and blood work and I guess the 3 vets I talked to when I took Penny in were wrong when they told me they could check for seizures, hmmm. And then how can you tell him not to worry if his dog is giving classic seizure symptom signs. I know you know a lot about dogs but epilepsy is something I am still fresh out of, I learned a LOT in 2 1/2 years, did lots of research and I still could not save my girl, hours and hours of trips to the vet for meds or blood work every three months just to make sure the meds weren't killin her or shutting her liver and kidneys down. ANd you can stand by what you believe in and I will stnad by mine, if you have NO expiernce with seizures then pelase do not say anything. Thanks and yeah it did rub me the wrong way again, this is raw emotion form my stand point as I dealt with it for as long as I did, may not seem like a long time to some but it was to me and Iwould do it all over again if given the chance.

But not he vets cannot stop the seizures, but meds can help, and Lisa I have to disagree with the bold statement, well the end of it anyway, sorry this is exaclty what Penny did, why wait and see if soemthing happens and not be prepared for it. IDk maybe I am just difffernt and should have culled Penny before she got as bad as she did. Ok I have to step away from this, this is upsetting me.
In the end this shouldn't upset you, we all have given advice based on personal experiences and what we have learned over the years through our own dogs as well as others. If we disagree on each others advice that is all it is, i don't believe anything should be taken offense on this thread.

Bottom line is David is taking Bernie to the vet and that can rule out just about any type of health issue that may be associated with this type of behavior. While i believe its probably nothing serious and something either i mentioned or the others have (not health related) he will find out soon enough.

In the meantime David i think you have your answer(s) until the vet if it is anything that needs to be addressed no amount of worrying or dwelling will fix it now, especially since you don't know what it is. I know it can give you a scare but really i honestly wouldn't worry about it. Everything will be fine.
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I'm gunna have to back Tye on this one as I too have dealt with the heart break of owning an epileptic dog. The vets will be able to tell you what's going on, they have gone a long way. Here in CA we actually have a place just for k-9 epilepsy, Mack Truck has an in loving memory plack on the wall there. I will definitely say a prayer for you guys tonight, I hope he just hears mice or something like that.
thank you for the info and the good vibes I hope it's mice that only he can hear.
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If he has great hearing.. he could be growling at sounds and sights you can see or hear. Humans are getting dumber "sense" wise. You can elaborate on what they are, as long as his aggression isnt directed towards you and yours; he's all good, just feels like he needs to guard the vulnerable. Only time Hooch was ever HA was when the Mrs was alone home with the lil tots... No one usually come over unless they were family when I was gone, because you didnt want her to open the door, Hooch wasnt having it. As the baby's grow he became a lot more relaxed... give it time and monitor taking mental notes. The only wway his aggression will hurt the lil one of course if hes not directing at ya'll is by running her over in the process of "get some"...

Simple easy boy its okay.. dont punish him for guarding your family.. or what the point.. ?? if they act that way its a reason for it most usually. they dont want that mouse, cricket, bird, man walking outside, "spirits",... near that mamma and her baby.. ya'll are his pack and hes noticing something your not.. or his cheese is slippin of his cracker.

Dosia is kinda like that. He gets all in defense mode when I'm here by myself. Tweeker peekin out the window and very sensitive to the littlest sounds. He may just be feeling the need to protect the baby.



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