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davidfitness83 07-07-2011 07:24 PM

Bernie is freaking me out !!! what can this be?
 
I have never seen this type of behavior in my dog before and i do not know what to think of it. Bernie was laying next to my wife and the baby facing the door and then he started growling towards the door kind of like staring at a spot on the ceiling. I did not think anything of it since he does growl at night when he hears noise outside and the day before it was 4th of july and the fireworks set him off. Anyhow, last night he was laying on the couch next to me and started staring towards the TV and started growling again. This time I corrected him and sent him to this bed. A few minutes after laying on his bed he started the same growl again, this growl is not directed at anyone, he is just laying there growling so I put him to sleep for the night.


I woke up this morning and thought to my self if he does this again I am going to be very stern and correct him immediately in a more dominant way. So he did it once this morning and i raised my voice and he stopped. after a while he was fine and then he was just laying on his bed and started growling again, my wife said he was looking down at the floor growling.


I am very concerned about this behavior, he has never resource guarded, nor shown any kind of growling or barking at any of us. Has anyone experience anything like this before? I am really clueless and I have no idea what to do. I can't put my wife or my baby's life in danger if there is something wrong with Bernie.

KMdogs 07-07-2011 07:31 PM

Aside from the fireworks has anything changed recently? Have you noticed any other odd behavior along with what you already mentioned but perhaps wrote it off as something else? Also when he does it is he fixated on anything in particular or will he do it just looking in a general area but still acknowledging his surroundings?

davidfitness83 07-07-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KMdogs (Post 455450)
Aside from the fireworks has anything changed recently? Have you noticed any other odd behavior along with what you already mentioned but perhaps wrote it off as something else? Also when he does it is he fixated on anything in particular or will he do it just looking in a general area but still acknowledging his surroundings?

I dont think anything has changed, the growling is not fixated at any of the animals or us. Just before he growled at the ground....?? this is freaking me out. I was reading about onset aggression but I thought this happened when the dog is sleeping and goes into some kind of aggressive seizure?

performanceknls 07-07-2011 07:36 PM

So he is now growling at you or the family, it could be something he is hearing outside off in the distance. Sometimes my dogs do that and it bugs the crap out of me.

Kaos my old male use to growl and it was more of his personality than anything else. Can you give more detail? or what about, if he growls let him outside and see if he alerts to something. My guess would be he is hearing something, if he is growling at the floor it is possible something got under your house or in the walls? Dogs can even detect termites and for this reason I do not know if hard correction is what I would do.

Black Rabbit 07-07-2011 07:37 PM

:( I would take him in to see the vet. Mack Truck used to do that before the seizures started. He would look up at the sky or down towards the ground at something that wasn't there. It was never directed at people or other animals it was kinda like he was seeing things. I really hope that it is nothing serious but I'd have him checked anyway. Does he ever act like he's confused in places he shouldn't?

*Edit, Lisa has a good point, if you have mice in the wall or under the house his doggy ears could hear that.




Sadie 07-07-2011 07:37 PM

I had a dog who would do this .. He would run out to pee and growl and bark as soon as he hit the grass peeing. He would growl just to growl but he was not growling at me or any person in the household. He would be laying there at night on the bed and just start growling LOL. Sometimes I would ask him what the heck are you growling at and he would lick me and go back to doing what he was doing. As long as he is not barking or growling at you, the wife, or the baby or anyone else in the home I wouldn't be worried about it. I thought home boy was seeing ghosts ... If he's not sick or in pain, and he is not directing these growls at anyone in the home I don't think it's anything serious. We will see what Lisa says...

performanceknls 07-07-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by davidfitness83 (Post 455455)
I dont think anything has changed, the growling is not fixated at any of the animals or us. Just before he growled at the ground....?? this is freaking me out. I was reading about onset aggression but I thought this happened when the dog is sleeping and goes into some kind of aggressive seizure?

Really if it is at the floor my guess would be something under neath where he is or around that area. Dogs are very sensitive to sound sometimes.

performanceknls 07-07-2011 07:40 PM

Seriously I believe in ghosts and spirits and I know my dogs see them. We lived in a house that was pretty much haunted with crap happening all the time and the dogs could see them even if we couldn't.

I had a laundry basket chase one of my dogs up the couch..... REALLY! She got all weird and popped off the couch and ran to the basket (she had no collar to get hung up on) then she jumped in the air and bolted on the couch and the basket followed her right up on it. She would not move for about 5 min, neither could we! lol

Sadie 07-07-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by performanceknls (Post 455462)
Seriously I believe in ghosts and spirits and I know my dogs see them. We lived in a house that was pretty much haunted with crap happening all the time and the dogs could see them even if we couldn't.

I had a laundry basket chase one of my dogs up the couch..... REALLY! She got all weird and popped off the couch and ran to the basket (she had no collar to get hung up on) then she jumped in the air and bolted on the couch and the basket followed her right up on it. She would not move for about 5 min, neither could we! lol

I am telling you I knew that dog was seeing and hearing things because he would growl for no reason! LMFAO!! I thought it was funny after I realized it was just his personality crazy mutt! LOL Your right though dogs are sensitive to sounds so I wouldn't worry unless you notice medical problems or the dog is growling at the people in the home that is when it's time to do something.

KMdogs 07-07-2011 07:47 PM

I agree with everyone else as well as it could be lack of physical or mental stimulation. I know that having a baby is demanding of time and im sure you are trying to balance everything but i could only imagine (not having kids of my own yet) that the exercise levels have dropped to some degree.

For instance several months ago i came down with strep throat, ear and sinus infection all at once and was in the bed virtually 24/7 for several days. During this period the only time i had anything to do with my dogs was taking them out to use the bathroom or feeding otherwise it was rest. Each day that Ashley was at work during that time they would randomly growl or bark out of frustration as they are high drive high energy dogs. Now i know that Bullies aren't generally like this though it could be a possible reason behind it.

With the information you provided thus far it doesn't really sound like anything health related or something that should be stressed over necessarily. I would just keep an eye on the behavior closely and when you start picking up on the signs hes giving right before he growls or barks thats when the correction should be made. (ideally)

Now if he is directing this at you or redirecting frustration at you than thats when you would need to decide how to approach it. Either some how making the time there for him or rehoming if it came down to it. But right now that doesn't sound like its the case.

performanceknls 07-07-2011 07:48 PM

And to Krystal's point about seizures that could be true. Dogs do weird things before having seizures but only time will tell if that is what it is. Vets can only do blood work and maybe and x-ray of his head. Wait to see if you can figure it out, my guess is something in the walls, it could be a pest or a ghost! lol

apbtmom76 07-07-2011 07:49 PM

Krystal echoed exactly waht I was thinking, this is what Penny did as well and she was never a growler, ever, not at humans or even wierd noises, but right before her seizures started she started doing this. Take him to the vet David, please, it could be nothing but you are never wrong for checking into everything. Hugs

performanceknls 07-07-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KMdogs (Post 455466)
I would just keep an eye on the behavior closely and when you start picking up on the signs hes giving right before he growls or barks thats when the correction should be made. (ideally)

I don't know if I would correct him if he is trying to tell David that he hears something. To me that is unfair and David might have to find what he hearing.

KMdogs 07-07-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by apbtmom76 (Post 455468)
Krystal echoed exactly waht I was thinking, this is what Penny did as well and she was never a growler, ever, not at humans or even wierd noises, but right before her seizures started she started doing this. Take him to the vet David, please, it could be nothing but you are never wrong for checking into everything. Hugs

Hmm while it does pay to be safe, nothing about this really strikes me as something calling for that kind of action. (at least from my own experiences) I would hold off and keep an eye on the behavior as mentioned in my other post. I think too many people jump the gun when it comes to taking dogs to vets for un-needed tests. Of course if you have the money and thats what you want to do theres nothing wrong with that.. but just saying.

KMdogs 07-07-2011 07:55 PM

Lisa you make a good point about the corrections. I know unless theres a reason for my own dogs to do this (that is obvious) i have always corrected and moved on without regretting doing so or finding out later there really was a reason. Of course your point is valid though.


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