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Old 01-17-2018, 04:11 PM   #136 (permalink)
 

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Took my pup to the vet to have her “knuckling over” checked out. Vet said that is Carpal Laxity syndrome, does anyone know if this is the same thing as knuckling over? I’ve searched and searched and can’t find anything linking them. Also vet told me to get her off of the ADULT TOTW and put her on a LARGE breed puppy food! I’m at a loss as to what to do!
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:13 PM   #137 (permalink)
 
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It's the scientific nomenclature for knuckling over. Maintain the diet on this thread as it is posted. This post has been listed as sticky because of how many puppies it has already helped to correct.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:33 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Took my pup to the vet to have her “knuckling over” checked out. Vet said that is Carpal Laxity syndrome, does anyone know if this is the same thing as knuckling over? I’ve searched and searched and can’t find anything linking them. Also vet told me to get her off of the ADULT TOTW and put her on a LARGE breed puppy food! I’m at a loss as to what to do!
When my two were seen by the vet for knuckling (and routine vaccines), he said it was not curable and that Kaos was going to be bow-legged and knuckled for life. When I told him that neither pup was like that when we got them, he told me to stick to carpets and especially grass (it was late summer) and see if that fixed it. I decided, on my own, to use this diet and it worked perfectly. My vet was SHOCKED and had never heard of the dietary changes. Kaos now has the straightest legs ever. Diet also cured Nala up from knuckling, though she has other/different issues as well.

Vets are great and should ALWAYS be your first resource; however, they are not omniscient. Stick with the diet exactly as described and your pups knuckling will eventually resolve.

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When my two were seen by the vet for knuckling (and routine vaccines), he said it was not curable and that Kaos was going to be bow-legged and knuckled for life. When I told him that neither pup was like that when we got them, he told me to stick to carpets and especially grass (it was late summer) and see if that fixed it. I decided, on my own, to use this diet and it worked perfectly. My vet was SHOCKED and had never heard of the dietary changes. Kaos now has the straightest legs ever. Diet also cured Nala up from knuckling, though she has other/different issues as well.

Vets are great and should ALWAYS be your first resource; however, they are not omniscient. Stick with the diet exactly as described and your pups knuckling will eventually resolve.

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Thats so good to know! My pup is 9 weeks old and we started her on the diet Saturday and haven't noticed any improvement if anything it looks like its gotten worse. We've been doing 1 cup of food 3 times a day, then the 1 teaspoon of cod liver oil, yogurt and apple cider vinegar, thats correct right? trying to keep her on rugs and not over playing with our other dog as well. tried posting pictures but it wont let me for some reason.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:55 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Yes - for each cup of food 1 tsp each of ACV, oil, and yogurt. It takes a little time to work but it DOES work. Play is fine, you just want to reduce the impact on the front joints - so jumping up is ok, but you don't want her jumping down kinda things. The rugs/grass are for better traction. We were lucky that we went through it in late summer so the pups could both get a lot of outside time in the grass. Patience and you will prevail.
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Guys, I was so excited his legs were actually straight!! Then a few days ago, we're right back to square one with how they look. Anyone else have this issue? I know this diet works because the difference was night and day! But why the regression all of a sudden? Any feedback is welcome thank you everyone!

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Old 01-23-2018, 11:04 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Are you still using the diet? If so, keep on it. We had a few steps back early on during growth spurts but keep with it and they will straighten again. If you came off the diet, back to it and stay with it. Nothing in the diet is bad for your dog for long term use. My dogs still eat all those ingredients on a regular basis and they’re 1.5 yrs now.
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Are you still using the diet? If so, keep on it. We had a few steps back early on during growth spurts but keep with it and they will straighten again. If you came off the diet, back to it and stay with it. Nothing in the diet is bad for your dog for long term use. My dogs still eat all those ingredients on a regular basis and they’re 1.5 yrs now.
I have a few different theories.

1) We ran out of the cod liver oil capsules for about a week. We were still using the vinegar, yogurt and TotW.

2) I had been using the $1 version of cheap Apple cider vinegar. Upon looking again a few days ago, there is a raw, unfiltered kind with "the "Mother" which claims many more health properties and benefits.

So now we're back on track with the cod liver oil and we're trying out this new vinegar. Here are some pics that I hope are viewable.



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Old 01-30-2018, 12:00 AM   #145 (permalink)
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HUGE improvement! That's a pretty bad case of knuckling in the first pic and legs looking so much better in the second. They are definitely straightening and the second pic looks close to normal. Keep up the good work!
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Anytime you see apple cider vinegar or ACV referenced on this site, they are talking about the kind "with the mother". The mother is where the benefits are.

I'm glad your pup is almost back to where they should be.
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:58 PM   #147 (permalink)
 
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wow!!! that is a lot of improvement!!!

until what age this could be a problem? 12, 18 months?
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This is my pup a couple days ago and didn’t see any issues with her paws....
This is today, I’m concerned, is this knuckling in its early stages? I’m new to all of this and ran across this forum and learning a lot but still had questions(if that makes any sense) should I start the feeding regiment talked about in this conversation... we do have tile throughout our home, we did get a piece of carpet to have her play on, we are trying all we can to help her if this indeed is early stages of knuckling... please help I’m not sure if pictures are going to download I’m new to all of this..


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Old 07-02-2018, 03:58 AM   #149 (permalink)
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Yep that's the start of knuckling. You may be able to curb that catching it this early but just switching her to adult formula food - the ToTW Pacific Stream is decent and then she's used to it if you have to go to the full recipe. Try to keep her on carpet or grass, which is even better, as much as possible and try to keep her from jumping down like from the sofa onto the floor if you can. That puts the stress on the front. You caught it fast so it should correct itself pretty quickly.
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Old 07-02-2018, 10:26 PM   #150 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the feedback, we went and got her some of the TOTW today, so should I transition it to her by doing a 50/50 with what she was eating before? Or can I just start giving her completely TOTW??


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