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Old 07-13-2011, 01:07 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Why does that regimen work, Laura?
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:10 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Your pup looks like he is at a level 1 (maybe 2) of knuckling, which can be corrected with wrapping (it may or may not be that extreme yet) and change of diet (most cases take about 9-10 weeks before a dog can fully support its own weight again). Poor quality diet or too much of a good food, poor footing/slick floors with no rugs, and missing trace minerals are all things that contribute to this problem. The earlier you treat the problem the better chance of correcting it. I have seen a 9 week old pup corrected in about 8 or 9 days because it was caught early. You need balance between calcium, phosphorus, vitamin d and the age - don't experiment.
Too much vitamin D causes issues as well as too little vitamin d so the key is BALANCE.
Holistic low protein dog food is what I have read works the best in correcting issues like this.

  • VET
  • PUT HIM ON A LOW PROTEIN DOG FOOD (23-25%)
  • Sunlight
  • Cod liver oil
  • DO NOT FEED EGGS!
    • RAW EGGS Contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems.
    • EGG SHELLS Provide our dogs with much needed calcium. Eggshells consist of calcium carbonate (94%), magnesium carbonate (1%), calcium phosphate (1%), and organic matter (4%).

Knuckling over is caused by the following:
1) a combination of two different types or brands of dog foods - feeding (50/50)
2) the brand or type of food has been changed several times (3-4) times
3) the addition of poor quality vitamins/minerals to a diet (not from whole foods)
4) human foods in amounts enough to disrupt the calcium/phosphorus balance
5) too many calories vs the amount of free exercise they get on a daily bases
6) feeding a pet food that has minerals that are not very available to the body - crude forms
7) diets lacking vital microminerals or trace minerals
8) feeding too much of a good food
9) any or all of the above.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Protein alone has nothing to do with it. Now if you pair up protein and genetic concerns that is what can cause things like this to happen. I have fed high protein diets to any dog owned from pup to senior not once having an issue. (most at least 36%) Not all dogs can handle high protein (unless you are working your dog heavily or being worked not really much of a point to begin with) but i wouldn't just blame the protein levels.
This is where I get confused?? I have also fed my past two dogs a high protein diet with no issues up until I got Bella who was fed TOTW prairie as a puppy started by the breeder and she started knuckling. So now she has been on BB lamb and brown rice for the past 5 months. I am soon making the switch to Acana next month because she will be a year old. So here is my question.....you aren't supposed to "work" a puppy hard and you hear all this controversy of high protein diets and issues. My girl isn't going to be hog hunting or anything to that affect but we are by no means couch potatoe's so I feel better having her on a higher protein grain free diet. In your opinion KM why is the high protein diets only beneficial to "working dogs" persay? The Acana I am putting her on is the grasslands at 32% protein. I think it should be based on your dogs activity level not just work alone. I live in the city and hike, jog, walk, etc. Bella is my companion in all of that so her activity is high. I am just picking your brain KM I like to hear your opinions is all
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Why does that regimen work, Laura?
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WOW the change is amazing!! OUCHHHH poor pup! So glad its better now!!!
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WOW the change is amazing!! OUCHHHH poor pup! So glad its better now!!!

Yeah he is a gorgeous boy!
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Ack, sorry. Typo, LOL.

What I meant was, what does the cod liver oil and the yoghurt do to affect the knuckling? Just supplies the appropriate vitamins?
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I know I know I havent text you back yet! I lubs you though!
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Wow I learned something today, I didn't even know knuckling existed. I've never seen it nor have a read about it in any book!
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Anyone know how to wrap a dog's leg/wrist properly? apparently my aunt doesn't have the money for a vet atm and I'd hate for it to get worse.
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Anyone know how to wrap a dog's let properly? apparently my aunt doesn't have the money for a vet atm and I'd hate for it to get worse.

You don't need to wrap that dog's legs. It isn't that severe.
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