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Old 08-04-2011, 10:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Oh no Amy, you can give him the ice cream it just needs to be in correlation to his diet and exercise. And yes like I said it took me longer with Penny due to her meds and seizures but we got there and she was sooo much happier. You can do it girl and Mel will thank you, trust me. I kept her at 59 to 60lbs for a whole year, so I know you can do it. And Mell will thank you trust me, just like the treats, he should only get them like twice a day and grain free is the way to go for sure. Is why I said cut his food in half and make up the half you cut with frozen or fresh green beans, do not cook them as it takes the nutritional value out. Good luck girl, you have all kinds of good advice here, Mel will be stellar before too long
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Old 08-04-2011, 10:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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oh I know its all good I SHOULD feel bad, I got him to this, I want him around and asked for help, no offence taken and thanks for your honesty! Your reasons above is why I haven't been pushing him mid day. May need to just suck it up and go at 1am when I get home and stay clear of the bars and drunk people getting out who try to run up to us and pat him, cause he sure does have a cute face lol
I think that would benefit him greatly, try to get on a schedule where your longer, harder exercises are reserved for when you get off work and just do your very light to mild work outs before you go to work. This should also help with weight loss paired with change of treats, etc.

No point in having him prematurely need to stop during exercising because of heat.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Also, I wanted to add--- when I switched to raw I saw a drastic change. Just food for thought should you wanna put forth the effort.
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I am a mean mom my dog's do not get treats LOL they get kibble and that's it. I use it for training too. My opinion throw out the ice cream and dog cookies. Just use kibble. You can also skip a day of feeding too or fast one time a week. But I only do that when I am trying to condition a dog or bring their weight down on the day you fast them they still get water.

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He does look cute with that ice cream though...hahaha
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Ames....he could use a little more tuck around the waste give him to me for a few weeks and I'll have him in shape for ya Bella and I go 3 miles at 5:30 every morning. I would think under 60 lbs would be more ideal for him. Maybe 58 to 55 lbs.......maybe I'm wrong. Lisa will correct me if I am lol!! I love your boy Amy, he is so cute. No wonder why you spoil him with treats! How can you resist that face
Shoot I should let ya, cause I know I sure as hell can't keep up with you right now lol and yeah, that's the hard part, unlike Lisa I am a sucker for puppy eyes, lol. I guess if I had 22 dogs I would get over it too or else be in TROUBLE fast!

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Also, I wanted to add--- when I switched to raw I saw a drastic change. Just food for thought should you wanna put forth the effort.
WOW that is crazy, such a change in those pics! I am actually scared of raw because anytime he has had beef (either raw or cooked steak), he gets the runs for like a month and feeding raw of just chicken seemed not recommended. Just don't want him to have a bad belly again, but maybe will look into it if this doesn't work.

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I think that would benefit him greatly, try to get on a schedule where your longer, harder exercises are reserved for when you get off work and just do your very light to mild work outs before you go to work. This should also help with weight loss paired with change of treats, etc.

No point in having him prematurely need to stop during exercising because of heat.
so true, and now I realize that's what has been happening, he is panting just as hard, I figured it was the same amount of workout, just faster cause of the heat, after seeing heat stroke and what not I stopped when his pant changes to a locomotive, lol. Late night here e come

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I am a mean mom my dog's do not get treats LOL they get kibble and that's it. I use it for training too. My opinion throw out the ice cream and dog cookies. Just use kibble. You can also skip a day of feeding too or fast one time a week. But I only do that when I am trying to condition a dog or bring their weight down on the day you fast them they still get water.
HAHA why am I not surprised If he liked his kibbles I would use them as treats, but cheese is the only thing he seems to train with and give me complete focus. anything else, he could care less. The biscuits are just when he is cute and we come back from a walk. yeah, I know, lol stop with the cute boy biscuits!!

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He does look cute with that ice cream though...hahaha
lol thanks
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:22 AM   #23 (permalink)
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WOW that is crazy, such a change in those pics! I am actually scared of raw because anytime he has had beef (either raw or cooked steak), he gets the runs for like a month and feeding raw of just chicken seemed not recommended. Just don't want him to have a bad belly again, but maybe will look into it if this doesn't work.

If you try raw and he's sensitive, you can always add canned pumpkin. That should help with the hershey squirts.
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If you try raw and he's sensitive, you can always add canned pumpkin. That should help with the hershey squirts.
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I am a mean mom my dog's do not get treats LOL they get kibble and that's it. I use it for training too. My opinion throw out the ice cream and dog cookies. Just use kibble. You can also skip a day of feeding too or fast one time a week. But I only do that when I am trying to condition a dog or bring their weight down on the day you fast them they still get water.
When mine were pups i'd occasionally buy some limited ingredient treats (such as canyon creek) but once they reached around a year give or take we cut that out all together. Training i give kibble as well, i don't really believe in doing treats that often. On occasion such as their birthdays or other special days i'll go to a butcher shop and get them each a bone with some meat left on there but thats a fairly rare event. (maybe 4 times a year)

My dogs treat is being with me, full filling my needs and in return being loved. I doubt if they could talk theyd tell me they miss anything. lol
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Tara I did the same thing with training and such, I just used their kibble, all of my dogs were great about it. Odie is learinging the same way and treats will bel imited for special occassions. You can do it Amy, good luck and keep us posted
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lol I don't give my dog treats either unless they are training. They do have nylabones but no treats really. The only dog who was able to get me to give them what they wanted was Kaos my first working APBT. He was great and I loved him so much he would give me those puppy eyes and I would melt! lol
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lol I don't give my dog treats either unless they are training. They do have nylabones but no treats really. The only dog who was able to get me to give them what they wanted was Kaos my first working APBT. He was great and I loved him so much he would give me those puppy eyes and I would melt! lol
i KNEW there must have been at least one that made you melt

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I'm not really sure how much should be your dog's ideal weight but here's a link to a blog about an ultimate weight loss plan for pets.

Oftentimes, the problem is not with our dog's appetites, its us. we always fall for those long faces and adorable eyes and we fail to remember that dogs will always be hungry dogs.
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so Mel has been on steroids and antibiotics and is dealing with allergies so I have not been working him out super hard, I figure the 'roids are making him hungry enough, we do long walks but nothing major until he is done with the drugs. Still, in the last month he still lost another couple pounds. Officially down to 60.0 on the nose No more treats, poor pup, and only cheese when we are training.



anxiously awaiting his test results for weird bump (other thread) Still have 5-10lbs more, but we are doing well!
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